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DaveHanson · 16 Dec 2001, 12:52 AM

A big "me too" from me also! This service keeps getting better.

Jeremy (or anyone), a quick follow-up to your point about spamming. Is there any way to allow visitors to your web site to click on a link to e-mail you without having it be easily harvestable by spammers?

Thanks, Dave

geoffreycross · 16 Dec 2001, 01:08 AM

Your best bet is to do one of the following:

a) publicise your address as myuseridREMOVEME@somewhere.theinternet.com. This is not ideal because the user sending you email has to edit the address, but it is very common. I'm not sure how well the automatic REMOVEME removers are these days: they might be able to defeat a lot of these types of things (be more inventive than me).

b) publicise your address as myuserid+fromwebpage@somewhere.com. Filter out everything with the +fromwebpage extension into a folder that you acknowledge might well contain a fair amount of spam. An addition to this might be to insist that users sending you legitimate email must put some keyword into the subject line, and you can then filter out anything that doesn't contain this keyword.

c) only allow email to be sent to you from a web-page via a CGI script which doesn't need to reveal the address to which it is being sent.

Geoff.

neerav · 16 Dec 2001, 03:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DaveHanson
Is there any way to allow visitors to your web site to click on a link to e-mail you without having it be easily harvestable by spammers?

You can also visit http://siteup.com/index_explorer.html and enter your email address. This free service will encode your email address using escape characters and whatnot that causes email harvesters to choke, but your address will appear normal to the web user and is also functional if they click on it.

--Neerav

DaveHanson · 16 Dec 2001, 08:15 AM

Thanks for the suggestions guys! I'm going to give Neerav's suggestions a try. D

jdkanaris · 25 Aug 2002, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jeremy Howard
You're welcome!!!

PS: Jamie--you've got your FastMail.FM email address as plain text on your web-site's home page. That's likely to lead to spammers harvesting it for their lists. I suggest instead writing jamieATf-mDOTfm or some other human-readable but machine-unreadable form to avoid this problem.

Jeremy:

Does it make a difference if the actual forwarding link is a valid e-mail? To use your example:

<A class=UnSelectedWhite href="mailto:jamie@fastmail.fm">jamieATfastmailDOTfm</a>

I ABSOLUTELY LOVE FASTMAIL! I just became a member (ditched Hotmail).

Jeremy Howard · 25 Aug 2002, 12:00 PM

If you have a bare address in a mailto: link, it's likely to be harvested.

jdkanaris · 25 Aug 2002, 01:06 PM

Ok Jeremy, good to know!

redmyrlin · 25 Aug 2002, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by neerav

You can also visit http://siteup.com/index_explorer.html and enter your email address. This free service will encode your email address using escape characters and whatnot that causes email harvesters to choke, but your address will appear normal to the web user and is also functional if they click on it.

--Neerav

Let me first of all add my thanks and praise to fastmail.fm, not just for the excellent second-to-none email service they provide, but also for the existence of this forum and its friendly community of users.

Secondly thanks for the advice, Jeremy, about bare text mailto:'s on web sites, and thanks Neerav for the link to that site - I'll certainly be using it!

I just wonder how it works though?

kander · 25 Aug 2002, 08:15 PM

Another Mail-Masker:

I'm not 100% sure on the code, but basically it was a Javascript where you defined the var's User and Domain. Then at the place where you want people to see a mail-me link there'd be a

write(<a href=mailto:+'user'+@+'domain'>Mail Me</a>)
(NOTE: This probably won't work, as I said, I am not too good at Javascript. I just happened to see such a script somewhere not too long ago)

This way your complete addy would not be anywhere in the code.

Before I forget: ME 2! Give me Fastmail or give me death!

fmfan · 25 Aug 2002, 09:20 PM

So very nice to have FastMail with IMAP.

My computer hard drive crashed month or so ago -
had not backed up Outlook emails - so lost that on computer.

BUT, once had Windows, Outlook reinstalled, VERY soon had
all emails back on hard drive - just resynchronized with my
FastMail [IMAP] account!

How sweet it is.

And Jeremy, Rob, again much thanks for your very timely,
informative and kind past responses to questions I've had
re my account. ...

sjk · 26 Aug 2002, 06:24 AM

Another one: Hivelogic Email Address Encoder.

hadaso · 16 Dec 2002, 11:57 PM

I really like the way this topic drifted!

I'm in love with FastMail and my wife is jealous!

For the ultra-paranoid:
Use a disposable email address that forwards to your fastmail account. If it starts getting spam, replace it (I use sneakemail.com for this when I post my address on my websites. I use spamgourmet.com when I post it in forums, several other such services are recommended in/by fromline.com).

If you do want your real email to show on your website so real people can copy it from the screen using real pencil and paper, you can do it quite safely using an image (create the page the way you want it to look, then use <Print Scrn> or whatever way you want to capture the screen and paste it to your favourite garaphics application, crop the email address, make the background transparent, and replace the text email in the HTML page by the image). Then you're safe until spammers start to use OCR in scanning the web.

Actually, I had a real address posted plainly on a tripod page for more than a year, and never got spam on that address (actually google didn't find that website either. Anyone interested in a calculus website in Hebrew?)

**psalzer** · 17 Dec 2002, 12:29 AM

I guess I can add a me too, too. I've had my Fastmail account for about a year now but the honeymoon is't over by a long shot.

rwillis · 17 Dec 2002, 08:48 AM

I enjoy seeing FastMail.fm grow and develop. I enjoy using all of its features, and I anticipate all the new cool features as well!

elvey · 17 Dec 2002, 09:45 AM

STOP!
Post your Yeah, FM is great posts to the sticky Fastmail Testimonials thread!

16 Dec 2002, 11:57 PM	#27
hadaso The "e" in e-mail Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Holon, Israel. Posts: 4,855	For the ultra-paranoid I really like the way this topic drifted! I'm in love with FastMail and my wife is jealous! For the ultra-paranoid: Use a disposable email address that forwards to your fastmail account. If it starts getting spam, replace it (I use sneakemail.com for this when I post my address on my websites. I use spamgourmet.com when I post it in forums, several other such services are recommended in/by fromline.com). If you do want your real email to show on your website so real people can copy it from the screen using real pencil and paper, you can do it quite safely using an image (create the page the way you want it to look, then use <Print Scrn> or whatever way you want to capture the screen and paste it to your favourite garaphics application, crop the email address, make the background transparent, and replace the text email in the HTML page by the image). Then you're safe until spammers start to use OCR in scanning the web. Actually, I had a real address posted plainly on a tripod page for more than a year, and never got spam on that address (actually google didn't find that website either. Anyone interested in a calculus website in Hebrew?)

17 Dec 2002, 08:48 AM	#29
rwillis Essential Contributor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: PA Posts: 211	Me too! I enjoy seeing FastMail.fm grow and develop. I enjoy using all of its features, and I anticipate all the new cool features as well!

17 Dec 2002, 09:45 AM	#30
elvey The "e" in e-mail Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: San Francisco Posts: 2,458	STOP! STOP! Post your Yeah, FM is great posts to the sticky Fastmail Testimonials thread!

16 Dec 2001, 12:52 AM	#16
DaveHanson Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 149	A big "me too" from me also! This service keeps getting better. Jeremy (or anyone), a quick follow-up to your point about spamming. Is there any way to allow visitors to your web site to click on a link to e-mail you without having it be easily harvestable by spammers? Thanks, Dave

16 Dec 2001, 01:08 AM	#17
geoffreycross Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 86	Your best bet is to do one of the following: a) publicise your address as myuseridREMOVEME@somewhere.theinternet.com. This is not ideal because the user sending you email has to edit the address, but it is very common. I'm not sure how well the automatic REMOVEME removers are these days: they might be able to defeat a lot of these types of things (be more inventive than me). b) publicise your address as myuserid+fromwebpage@somewhere.com. Filter out everything with the +fromwebpage extension into a folder that you acknowledge might well contain a fair amount of spam. An addition to this might be to insist that users sending you legitimate email must put some keyword into the subject line, and you can then filter out anything that doesn't contain this keyword. c) only allow email to be sent to you from a web-page via a CGI script which doesn't need to reveal the address to which it is being sent. Geoff.

16 Dec 2001, 08:15 AM	#19
DaveHanson Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 149	Thanks for the suggestions guys! I'm going to give Neerav's suggestions a try. D

25 Aug 2002, 12:00 PM	#21
Jeremy Howard Ultimate Contributor Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Australia Posts: 11,501	If you have a bare address in a mailto: link, it's likely to be harvested.

25 Aug 2002, 01:06 PM	#22
jdkanaris Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 10	Ok Jeremy, good to know!

25 Aug 2002, 08:15 PM	#24
kander The "e" in e-mail Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,112	Another Mail-Masker: I'm not 100% sure on the code, but basically it was a Javascript where you defined the var's User and Domain. Then at the place where you want people to see a mail-me link there'd be a write(<a href=mailto:+'user'+@+'domain'>Mail Me</a>) (NOTE: This probably won't work, as I said, I am not too good at Javascript. I just happened to see such a script somewhere not too long ago) This way your complete addy would not be anywhere in the code. Before I forget: ME 2! Give me Fastmail or give me death!

25 Aug 2002, 09:20 PM	#25
fmfan Master of the @ Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: TX US Posts: 1,298	So very nice to have FastMail with IMAP. My computer hard drive crashed month or so ago - had not backed up Outlook emails - so lost that on computer. BUT, once had Windows, Outlook reinstalled, VERY soon had all emails back on hard drive - just resynchronized with my FastMail [IMAP] account! How sweet it is. And Jeremy, Rob, again much thanks for your very timely, informative and kind past responses to questions I've had re my account. ...

26 Aug 2002, 06:24 AM	#26
sjk Master of the @ Join Date: May 2002 Location: Eugene Posts: 1,975	Another one: Hivelogic Email Address Encoder.

17 Dec 2002, 12:29 AM	#28
psalzer Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 2,654	I guess I can add a me too, too. I've had my Fastmail account for about a year now but the honeymoon is't over by a long shot.