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As I said earlier, I think that the arguments against additional TLD's are economic in nature, and most of Dyson's comments are related to the economies of this change.
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You made remarks about large numbers that can apply to practically any noun and you made a spurious comparison with hosts.txt.
If your point is that having a googolplex of TLDs would be absurd in the same sense that making a googolplex of deck chairs would be then your point isn't worth making. Someone has to apply to run a TLD, and pay a lot of money before it exists - the number is never going to be absurd in that sense. hosts.txt had to contain every public hostname that existed, and was genuinely flat, which gave it severe scaling problems. However many TLDs are added DNS is never going to be flat. The only scaling limitation is in the root servers, and presumably the number of TLDS is not going to be expanded faster than the capacity of the root servers to deal them. Quote:
I think what will happen is that big organizations are going have their own TLDs, most large & medium size companies will stick with ccTLDs, .com etc, and the new general purpose TLDs will mostly appeal to individuals or small businesses. There are minor winners and minor losers. The winners are mostly the public - if it annoys some "B Ark" people, I can live with that. |
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The hosts.txt analogy provides relevance in that it helps us to visualize (in a general way) a scenario where arbitrary registrations are allowed at the top level... that's all. Nobody said any future scenario would exactly match that situation in every detail. Regarding the following two comments: Quote:
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I should point out that we currently have the technology for a database to manage a fan-out of millions (as the DNS currently does under ".com"), even at the root of a hierarchy. The YahooID namespace is in the many millions, and they give them out for free. Doing the same thing to the DNS root is not prevented by cost or scalability limitations (or if it were, those limitations would be overcome before too long), only policy limitations. Dyson concedes that her opinions are just that (wording such as "I do think", "if I am right", "there could well be"). Nobody can predict the future with certainty. My opinion is that her arguments are still stronger than the counterarguments presented. I can appreciate that others have a different opinion. Only time will tell. Cheers. Last edited by hans2010 : 11 Jan 2014 at 04:22 PM. |
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It's fine with me if that's your position (and as I said before, I hope you're right). No need to be shy about stating it! Just sayin'.... |
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It's not a different view because I don't know what you view is. You have steadfastly refused to write anything of any substance.
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I have no position beyond what Dyson stated. You expressed some disagreement with her article, which is what I meant by "different view". I'm OK with you having a different view on the topic. And perhaps I have an unclear way of expressing myself, and I apologize for that. But I'm not sure it's fair for you to keep saying that everything I write is either "spurious" or nothing of substance. I'm only saying, "uh... what she said". And if you think Dyson's article is spurious, you might try writing to her, because she's probably more influential on this topic than I am. Last edited by hans2010 : 14 Jan 2014 at 10:46 PM. Reason: trying to give a real answer |
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Some of these new TLDs make sense.
.music, .mail, .inc, .app, .online, .site, .blog, .news, .... But please don't let them approve stuff like .pizza or TLDs for any big city. There are over 200 sovereign nations in the world, all of them have functioning ccTLDs. OK, not all of them are widely used, and some are exremely restricted in use (.kp, .va, .bf, etc come into mind) but for sure over 200 ccTLDs are operative in addition to the gTLDs we have know for a while such as .com, .net, .org, .info, ... So let's say that we have well over ccTLDs already running, because some non sovereign states also were given ccTLDs nonetheless that became in use (.gl, .tf, .sh, .as, .ax, .cc, ... to name just a few) To add even more TLDs is just going to make finding the right website like looking for a needle in a haystack. We won't be able to see the forest from the trees. Imagine I want to order a concert ticket for a gig of Bruce Springsteen. Let's assume it is in the US so that we don't have to take other ccTLDs into consideration. Let's imagine the concert is in Carnegy Hall, NYC. Will I need to go to brucespringsteen.com? brucespringsteen.shop? brucespringsteen.music? brucespringsteen.buy? carnegyhall.us? carnegyhall.buy? carnegyhall.buy? carnegyhall.shop ? And then this is a relatively easy one. Imagine you're dealing with a concert overseas and you have to keep other ccTLDs into consideration too. Or imagine Carnegy Hall would register its own TLD... We already have that many extentions. Would logics not dictate to fully develop them first before creating new suffixes? |
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I think that nearly everyone would use Google or Bing to find the website URL. That's what I do.
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I agree with Bill. For that matter, maybe it's bruce.e.springsteen. The TLD (in this case .net) shouldn't be a barrier to finding stuff on the Web.
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As I said in another topic: sometimes fan websites would appear on top of the results rather than the official site ; and not every fan website is well maintained and up to date.
With new apps, new TLDs, new social networks, ... etc coming up so rapidly, the internet is becoming very complex compared to just a decade ago. I fear it may get a bit too complicated for some ; if you have too many options to choose from, it makes choosing the right option even harder ... And maybe it would be useful to assure that every suffix currently existing works properly rather than creating a whole set of new ones. For example .kp, .ss, .bf, .cf, .sx, .mf, ... are hardly used at all, registering one is extremely complex, and some are in the root while remaining completely unused (eg .sj, .bv, .eh, ...) |
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