Truly a new (free) alternative for Gmail??

Dutchie007 · 9 Aug 2013, 11:31 AM

https://www.openmailbox.org/index.php

I am about to register here....tomorrow or saturday I will test.

interface is in French or English. Unlimited storage...looks promising.

pls join in and share your thoughts guys (and girls).

Dutchie.

drew · 9 Aug 2013, 03:30 PM

I use email daily but I am a total nobody
so I have not much to say.

Where does he have the servers? Passwords stored in plain text?

How will he make it financed? Donations?

janusz · 9 Aug 2013, 03:45 PM

Roundcube. Either you like it or you hate it....

Anyway, once you register the email interface is available in a multitude of languages.

A mysterious sentence from the EULA: The services are offered by the state and subject to availability. . This looks like a Google translation of the French: Les services sont proposés en l'état et sous réserve de disponibilité. What does it really mean?

drew · 9 Aug 2013, 04:04 PM

Not knowing any French could it be their way to say.

the service is provided on an as is basis? A kind of legal way
to cover any losses. If it works it works and when it fails
then we are not responsible because it is an as is service?

like1980 · 9 Aug 2013, 04:09 PM

Seems to me many "new" providers are popping up trying to take a share of the privacy concerned market.

I am eagerly awaiting to see what startmail will look like!

janusz · 9 Aug 2013, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by like1980

the privacy concerned market.

Of course you have to take the providers' privacy statements at face value...

BTW, openmailbox is registered, and has servers, in France.

drew · 9 Aug 2013, 04:45 PM

AFAIK the European Union Data Directive force every ISP to save logs
for many months not the content but who wrote to whom with IP
and date and usernames and such.

what do we really know about what is happening in Europe then?

Tsunami · 9 Aug 2013, 10:31 PM

The EU obliges one year minimum storage of
* sender and receiver of the email, date and time of the email, and subject line, but the actual content is NOT required to be logged (although any host can choose to log it too, the EU does not command it)
* sender and receiver of an SMS, date and time, but NOT the content of the actual message

So basically they just look who you are in touch with, and how frequently, without actually peeking into your writings.

The weird thing is that the English text seems more correct than the French one. The grammar of the French language text contains errors. Which is odd if this is a French service, you'd expecte their English version more error prone...

Anyways, as always when a new service pops up out of nowhere and promises a lot of storage and nice features for free: who is backing the service financially and how do they plan to survive long term despite the competition with some very rich competitors in the email market?

savit · 9 Aug 2013, 11:57 PM

i signed up for it to explore
interphase (roundcube) looks ok (i liked it)
if what they are claiming is correct sounds like good.
any idea when this service was started? 2013?
does it run only on donations?
there is no predictability for how long it will last.

janusz · 10 Aug 2013, 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by savit

any idea when this service was started? 2013?

DNS registration: May 2013

communicant · 19 Aug 2013, 06:00 AM

I created an account there ten days ago and tested it. It seemed to work fine.

Today my browser repeatedly tells me that it can’t open the page "https://openmailbox.org/webmail/" because it couldn’t establish a secure connection to the server "openmailbox.org." Ignoring the warning and clicking "continue" doesn't work because openmailbox.org uses HTTPS by default, so a secure connection is essential.

I suppose the certificate might have changed or expired during the past ten days and that might explain why I can't establish a secure connection.

Any ideas?

Ceramic · 19 Aug 2013, 06:27 AM

I do not get any such warnings....

DrStrabismus · 19 Aug 2013, 07:19 AM

My reading is that it's aimed about people concerned about Google rather than the NSA.

It looks like a hobby project to me:

02. Sur quelle architecture repose OpenMailBox.org ?
Voici la configuration du serveur:
Processeur: intel® Xeon® E3 1220 V2
Ram: 8 GO DDR3
Connectivité: 1 Gbit/sec
OS: Debian wheezy
Disque dur: 2 x 1 TO en RAID 1

William9 · 19 Aug 2013, 07:39 AM

I continue to be amazed with how people will trust their messages to unknown or little known providers. In my opinion, it's analogous to handing your data to someone on the street.

Cervie · 20 Aug 2013, 02:07 PM

What a nice email is there any translation of language it is in french

9 Aug 2013, 11:31 AM	#1
Dutchie007 Essential Contributor Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 388	Truly a new (free) alternative for Gmail?? https://www.openmailbox.org/index.php I am about to register here....tomorrow or saturday I will test. interface is in French or English. Unlimited storage...looks promising. pls join in and share your thoughts guys (and girls). Dutchie.

19 Aug 2013, 06:00 AM	#11
communicant Cornerstone of the Community Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 879	Started out OK, but now can't establish secure connection I created an account there ten days ago and tested it. It seemed to work fine. Today my browser repeatedly tells me that it can’t open the page "https://openmailbox.org/webmail/" because it couldn’t establish a secure connection to the server "openmailbox.org." Ignoring the warning and clicking "continue" doesn't work because openmailbox.org uses HTTPS by default, so a secure connection is essential. I suppose the certificate might have changed or expired during the past ten days and that might explain why I can't establish a secure connection. Any ideas?

20 Aug 2013, 02:07 PM	#15
Cervie Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2	What a nice email is there any translation of language it is in french Last edited by Cervie : 20 Aug 2013 at 02:12 PM.

9 Aug 2013, 03:30 PM	#2
drew The "e" in e-mail Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,626	I use email daily but I am a total nobody so I have not much to say. Where does he have the servers? Passwords stored in plain text? How will he make it financed? Donations?

9 Aug 2013, 03:45 PM	#3
janusz The "e" in e-mail Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: EU Posts: 4,945	Roundcube. Either you like it or you hate it.... Anyway, once you register the email interface is available in a multitude of languages. A mysterious sentence from the EULA: The services are offered by the state and subject to availability. . This looks like a Google translation of the French: Les services sont proposés en l'état et sous réserve de disponibilité. What does it really mean?

9 Aug 2013, 04:04 PM	#4
drew The "e" in e-mail Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,626	Not knowing any French could it be their way to say. the service is provided on an as is basis? A kind of legal way to cover any losses. If it works it works and when it fails then we are not responsible because it is an as is service?

9 Aug 2013, 04:09 PM	#5
like1980 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 10	Seems to me many "new" providers are popping up trying to take a share of the privacy concerned market. I am eagerly awaiting to see what startmail will look like!

9 Aug 2013, 04:45 PM	#7
drew The "e" in e-mail Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,626	AFAIK the European Union Data Directive force every ISP to save logs for many months not the content but who wrote to whom with IP and date and usernames and such. what do we really know about what is happening in Europe then?

9 Aug 2013, 10:31 PM	#8
Tsunami The "e" in e-mail Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: in between the bright lights and the far unlit unknown Posts: 2,341	The EU obliges one year minimum storage of * sender and receiver of the email, date and time of the email, and subject line, but the actual content is NOT required to be logged (although any host can choose to log it too, the EU does not command it) * sender and receiver of an SMS, date and time, but NOT the content of the actual message So basically they just look who you are in touch with, and how frequently, without actually peeking into your writings. The weird thing is that the English text seems more correct than the French one. The grammar of the French language text contains errors. Which is odd if this is a French service, you'd expecte their English version more error prone... Anyways, as always when a new service pops up out of nowhere and promises a lot of storage and nice features for free: who is backing the service financially and how do they plan to survive long term despite the competition with some very rich competitors in the email market?

9 Aug 2013, 11:57 PM	#9
savit Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 14	i signed up for it to explore interphase (roundcube) looks ok (i liked it) if what they are claiming is correct sounds like good. any idea when this service was started? 2013? does it run only on donations? there is no predictability for how long it will last.

19 Aug 2013, 06:27 AM	#12
Ceramic Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 124	I do not get any such warnings....

19 Aug 2013, 07:19 AM	#13
DrStrabismus The "e" in e-mail Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 2,804	My reading is that it's aimed about people concerned about Google rather than the NSA. It looks like a hobby project to me: 02. Sur quelle architecture repose OpenMailBox.org ? Voici la configuration du serveur: Processeur: intel® Xeon® E3 1220 V2 Ram: 8 GO DDR3 Connectivité: 1 Gbit/sec OS: Debian wheezy Disque dur: 2 x 1 TO en RAID 1

19 Aug 2013, 07:39 AM	#14
William9 The "e" in e-mail Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: San Francisco Posts: 2,281	I continue to be amazed with how people will trust their messages to unknown or little known providers. In my opinion, it's analogous to handing your data to someone on the street.