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1 Jun 2016, 10:09 AM | #1 |
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Can mail be bounced but also delivered?
I'm trying to discourage people from sending E-mails direct to a Fastmail address of mine, and to use an address under a domain I have acquired, instead.
But despite requests, reminders and hints, some people are continuing to send important things direct to the Fastmail address. Is it possible to set something up so that such E-mails still arrive, but appear to the sender to be undeliverable? Thanks, Graham. |
1 Jun 2016, 11:20 AM | #2 |
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What about using an auto responder reminding people to send to your new email address?
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2 Jun 2016, 10:37 AM | #3 | |
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Using vacation response
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The best way to get what you are asking is to enable a vacation response.
Subject: Auto: <original email subject> Message body: I am no longer using this address. Please use newaddress@example.org in the future. Bill Last edited by n5bb : 2 Jun 2016 at 12:02 PM. Reason: Added example auto response text |
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3 Jun 2016, 10:26 PM | #4 |
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Thank you for that advice, Bill.
I've come in to the library to try it out (I have no computer and the new interface doesn't work on my phone), but sadly I've hit the same snag that I did when I tried to set up a forwarding rule: the new interface doesn't let me do it unless I enable the spam filter. Spam filters have caused me far more grief than spam ever has, so I'm not going to do that. Now, although I disagree with it, I do understand the reason for preventing me from using forwarding rules. But why on Earth stop me using vacation replies? I previously described Fastmail's sanctions against spam-filter refuseniks as 'a sledgehammer to crack a nut', but it seems I was mistaken, and it's more like an industrial rock crusher. |
4 Jun 2016, 05:14 AM | #5 |
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I don't want to start an argument with you, but as I described in that other thread you can set the spam filter to a high threshold (such as 50.0) and it will not have any actual effect on your messages. To do this, follow these instructions:
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4 Jun 2016, 04:09 PM | #6 |
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Thank you for that clarification, Bill.
If it works as you say, with no further complications, then that would solve my problem. I am very reluctant to try it out, though, because I gather from another thread here that turning the spam filter on is irrevocable, meaning that if your solution doesn't work for me for any reason, I will not be permitted to turn it back off and return to the position I am at now. Is that actually the case, or have I misunderstood? |
5 Jun 2016, 04:07 AM | #7 |
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You must have the spam filter activated to use a vacation response or forwarding. This is to prevent spam sent to your account from generating automatic responses (which often create spam, since spammers can use any address they wish in the From email field). So you can't completely disable the spam filter if you use forwarding or a vacation response. If you don't use forwarding or a vacation response then you can disable the spam filter. I don't recommend this, but you can do it.
But as I said, you can set the spam threshold very high. The filter can be set to a spam threshold of 100.0 maximum. I don't recommend that you set the setting that high, since the spam filter is very useful and prevents your account being treated as a spam generator if someone starts sending you spam which creates a forward or vacation response. But if you want to take that chance, you can set the threshold to a high value which can't be practically reached even with spam (such as 50.0). Bill |
5 Jun 2016, 05:01 AM | #8 | |
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I had misunderstood, then. Turning on the spam filter isn't an irrevocable change as I had thought. This means that if some unforeseen consequence arises that I'm unhappy with, I can simply delete the forwarding rule and vacation response and turn the spam filter back off. Everything will then return to exactly as it is now, and I will have lost nothing. Do I have that right? Thanks, Graham |
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5 Jun 2016, 12:11 PM | #9 | |
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But again I want to emphasize that there is really no downside to setting up a spam filter with a high threshold which only files messages (and does not delete them). In the 12 years I have had a Fastmail account, I don't know of a single message (out of over 6.5 Gbytes) which was lost due to the spam filter. I have my filter now set to a very low threshold (1.0), so occasionally a good message (ham) is filed in my Spam folder, but I see it and report it as non-Spam within a day or so. If you are using the account for forwarding, then setting the spam threshold very high as I suggested will make it impossible for the filter to accidentally mark a good message as spam. I don't think I have ever seen a message with a spam score higher than 30, and messages with scores over 20 are very bad messages from spammers. Bill |
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13 Jun 2016, 11:43 PM | #10 |
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I've come into the library again so that I can use the new interface.
I held my breath and tried what you suggested, Bill. Everything seems to be working exactly as you predicted. All very pleasing. Thank you for your admirably clear instructions,Bill, and for so patiently helping me to overcome my spamfilterophobia ! Many thanks. Graham |
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