Opinions Regarding These Non-US E-mail Services!! - Page 3

pippopippo204 · 21 Sep 2013, 05:53 PM

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Tsunami · 25 Sep 2013, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by jrey

In which country is it based?
Thanks.

You talk about Safe-Mail, I assume?

Offices and servers are in Israel. Jerusalem, to be more precisely, is the city from which they operate although they may have servers elsewhere as backup.

Extremely reliable provider.

Tsunami · 25 Sep 2013, 05:31 AM

I in the past asked if anyone knew how reliable mail.ir was. Nobody ever answered so that topic is probably way back on the forum topic list (using chronological order of last replies). But maybe this topic is suitable to ask again: did anyone manage to decipher the terms (all in Farsi language) and has anyone ever tried if they're stable and reliable (and with a clean interface preferably)?

pippopippo204 · 25 Sep 2013, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tsunami

I in the past asked if anyone knew how reliable mail.ir was. Nobody ever answered so that topic is probably way back on the forum topic list (using chronological order of last replies). But maybe this topic is suitable to ask again: did anyone manage to decipher the terms (all in Farsi language) and has anyone ever tried if they're stable and reliable (and with a clean interface preferably)?

It seems to be down now.
The url is www.mail.ir?

Tsunami · 26 Sep 2013, 02:03 AM

Yes, for sure. But it doesn't load here neither. Maybe a little downtime.

See this topic (which was never answered to but contained a link to their homepage)

I assume they're undergoing maintainance or having a downtime (which can happen to any service, no matter how unpractical it is)

robert@fm · 26 Sep 2013, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by filbert

TANSTAAFL - Nothing is ever free. They have to be funded somehow. I prefer to pay for my online services myself in the (maybe forlorn!) hope that, having a proper commercial relationship with the supplier, the service is more likely to treat me as a valued customer.
For free services, the customers must be the people or organisations that are providing the finances.

Sorry for the slightly late reply, only just noticed this post.

It has been said recently that "if you dont pay for a service you use, you're not the customer — you're the product". The attitude of Farcebook ("there's no such thing as privacy anymore") confirms that this is true, at least of Farcebook, and is one of many reasons why I won't touch Farcebook with a ten-foot pole.

FredOnline · 26 Sep 2013, 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by robert@fm

I won't touch Farcebook with a ten-foot pole.

Virtual, human or wood?

BTW it's FACEBOOK.

communicant · 26 Sep 2013, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by FredOnline

BTW it's FACEBOOK.

Obviously robert@fm meant "Farcebook" as a joke. Moreover, it is a joke with a certain ring of truth to it, IMO.

Tsunami · 26 Sep 2013, 10:24 PM

In some countries, the service just named would be banned for the practises they do outside of their users' view. But the popularity of the service seems to make people no longer care about what happens with their data, and makes government agencies look the other way or even work with them for data mining.

Of course, sadly enough, some email providers have chosen to go the same way. Maybe not as extreme as FB as yet, but the "privacy is a thing of the past" attitude seems to have infiltrated in the email world too.

And as long as you have any email traffic with someone using a US based provider, I doubt the usefulness of trying to avoid any service hosted in the States. You can try hard to find the most strict privacy laws on the planet, but the moment the receiver of your email is using a US based service it won't make much difference and can be read into just as well.

communicant · 28 Sep 2013, 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by pippopippo204

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I tried to register yesterday. After I finished and entered the captcha code the registration seemed about to go through, but then a message appeared that said (in Italian of course) that some sort of anomaly had been encountered and I should 'try the operation again in a few minutes'. I tried again but the same message appeared. Twenty-four hours later I tried again, and the exact same thing happened. I can't imagine what the problem might be. Has anyone else encountered problems creating an account?

pippopippo204 · 28 Sep 2013, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by communicant

I tried to register yesterday. After I finished and entered the captcha code the registration seemed about to go through, but then a message appeared that said (in Italian of course) that some sort of anomaly had been encountered and I should 'try the operation again in a few minutes'. I tried again but the same message appeared. Twenty-four hours later I tried again, and the exact same thing happened. I can't imagine what the problem might be. Has anyone else encountered problems creating an account?

You have PM

zdt · 6 Oct 2013, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Tsunami

(not sure if still operating) Mail.gr

This one may be a bit old, but I guess it might be useful.
mail.gr is still on business but if I can understand correctly from their first page they are cooperating with Google which means that maybe this service is not exactly non-US.

bbauri · 11 Oct 2013, 07:07 PM

Not only mail.gr, there are some other email services from Greece like in.gr or freemail.gr etc... But would you trust an email provider from Greece given the situation that all Greek companies are going out of business slowly?

Tsunami · 11 Oct 2013, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by bbauri

Not only mail.gr, there are some other email services from Greece like in.gr or freemail.gr etc... But would you trust an email provider from Greece given the situation that all Greek companies are going out of business slowly?

mail.gr is government owned, not a private company with risk of going out of business. Not that the government is rich in cash at the moment, but still ...

soromak · 12 Oct 2013, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Tsunami

mail.gr is government owned, not a private company with risk of going out of business. Not that the government is rich in cash at the moment, but still ...

It is hosted at Google servers, so I do not see the difference between using this service and gmail other than domain name.

21 Sep 2013, 05:53 PM	#31
pippopippo204 Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Italy - Ciao a tutti !!! Posts: 38	another free email libero.it (to sign up click on REGISTRATI, in the upper right) Suggestion to decrease the advertising: after sign in settings -> Account -> Personal Information (bottom) uncheck all, if any (bottom left) Commercial Information - enable disable - answer NO to both questions

25 Sep 2013, 05:31 AM	#33
Tsunami The "e" in e-mail Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: in between the bright lights and the far unlit unknown Posts: 2,341	I in the past asked if anyone knew how reliable mail.ir was. Nobody ever answered so that topic is probably way back on the forum topic list (using chronological order of last replies). But maybe this topic is suitable to ask again: did anyone manage to decipher the terms (all in Farsi language) and has anyone ever tried if they're stable and reliable (and with a clean interface preferably)?

26 Sep 2013, 02:03 AM	#35
Tsunami The "e" in e-mail Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: in between the bright lights and the far unlit unknown Posts: 2,341	Yes, for sure. But it doesn't load here neither. Maybe a little downtime. See this topic (which was never answered to but contained a link to their homepage) I assume they're undergoing maintainance or having a downtime (which can happen to any service, no matter how unpractical it is)

26 Sep 2013, 10:24 PM	#39
Tsunami The "e" in e-mail Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: in between the bright lights and the far unlit unknown Posts: 2,341	In some countries, the service just named would be banned for the practises they do outside of their users' view. But the popularity of the service seems to make people no longer care about what happens with their data, and makes government agencies look the other way or even work with them for data mining. Of course, sadly enough, some email providers have chosen to go the same way. Maybe not as extreme as FB as yet, but the "privacy is a thing of the past" attitude seems to have infiltrated in the email world too. And as long as you have any email traffic with someone using a US based provider, I doubt the usefulness of trying to avoid any service hosted in the States. You can try hard to find the most strict privacy laws on the planet, but the moment the receiver of your email is using a US based service it won't make much difference and can be read into just as well.

11 Oct 2013, 07:07 PM	#43
bbauri Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: India Posts: 29	Not only mail.gr, there are some other email services from Greece like in.gr or freemail.gr etc... But would you trust an email provider from Greece given the situation that all Greek companies are going out of business slowly?