Beta-release of Files-interface - Page 3

trond · 25 Nov 2003, 01:14 AM

OK, logging out should work properly with other browsers than IE now. I've only tried with Mozilla, so please let me know if any of you still have problems.

At the moment, you still have to log in to mail and files separately, but we intend to make use of this new authentication system in mail too, shortly, so that you only have to log in once.

BKB · 25 Nov 2003, 03:09 AM

Trond,
Works like a gem with Safari v1.1 - no issues.

Thanks,
BKB.

Liz · 25 Nov 2003, 07:55 AM

I can second that.

Liz

oysterquartz · 25 Nov 2003, 08:35 PM

Apple Users,

I'm thinking of switching back! I was a long term apple user Apple 2, 3, Mac, Mac Plus, Mac SE, ... all the way up to 1995 ...

Now OSX 10.3 Jaquar is seducing me

How do you all like OSX and Safari? Anyone using Virtual PC on their Mac?

Liz, have you demo'd .Mac? I know lots of people who've subcribed at $99/year. I think that the functionality (i.e. home pages) is great, and would really look forward to Runbox (hint, hint) allow some of it through the Files interface option of public sharing

Liz · 25 Nov 2003, 11:52 PM

Uhm, OS X 10.3 is called Panther.

I tried .mac when it was still free, but didn't use it much. I might go for a trial run again now, but considering I have unlimited free email as a job perk, I am unlikely to pay up...even though a mac.com address would just be da bomb.

I've never tried Virtual PC, I do have Safari of course, but use Netscape 7 as my primary browser and email client.

Liz, who would like a second iBook (G4)

oysterquartz · 26 Nov 2003, 12:11 AM

Who can get all of those big cat references correct Tigers, Lions, Jaquars, etc., etc, ....

The 14 " iBook G4 is quite nice ... maybe you'll find one under the Christmas tree as a Runbox corporate bonus!

Liz · 26 Nov 2003, 12:18 AM

Well, I got my current G3 14" iBook from runbox this spring, so that wouldn't be quite fair.

Would have to be a gift from me to me, but I might prefer a trip to the US instead, admittedly...

I think they should call the next release Cheetah btw, my favorite Big Cat!

Liz

BKB · 26 Nov 2003, 01:18 AM

Good to see that the discussion has turned to the merit of Mac - now that's more like it.

Oysterquartz - to answer your first question, I am typing this on my 12" PowerBook G4 1Ghz, w/Panther and Safari connected via Airport Extreme. All I can say is wow!? Like you I was a long term Apple user until I was drawn into the horrible world of PC for 10 years or so. The journey back to apple has been wonderful. Panther is, to my mind, superior to anything Windoze will achieve for years to come (has anyone heard of Loghorn?!). And the speed at which they are improving it is impressive. 4 updates in 3 years - not bad! The latest edition features some really killer apps, including Expose, which I just can't stop fooling around with, File Vault (for the security conscious), new Mail, Font Book, new Finder, etc...

I am not using Virtual PC for Mac but from people whoI know use it, it is excellent. If you need more information, http://forums.macnn.com/ is a great set of forums, check it out...

About .mac - i was recently gifted a one year subscription, so yes - I am using it. It is pretty cool - no doubt - mainly because it is so well integrated into the OS X , but a little bit expensive. Plus, one of the main features is a .mac email account, but I've been a runbox user for a year now, and have no intention of dropping it. The public access to iDisk is a nifty feature, but only if you need it - I don't. Any since there are hardly any viruses on the mac, i don't see how the addition of McAfee's Virex will do me any good, but hey - who's complaining.

And finally, Safari. I am most impressed with the speed of it - really something. Not sure why you'd want to use IE (which comes with OS X) or Netscape, but i'm sure there are some technical reasons for doing so. All I can say is try it out, it's fantastic.

Liz - I agree, the new iBooks are pretty nice. I had the chance to check them out at the Mac Store. They're getting a little bit too close to the PowerBook range in terms of features though

. And don't mean to correct you on your own turf but Cheetah was 10.0, followed by Puma (10.1), Jaguar (10.2) and now Panther (10.3). I believe the next one is going to be one of: Lynx, Cougar, Leopard, and Tiger. This link explains all:

http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2003/...24025054.shtml

Thanks,
BKB.

Geir · 26 Nov 2003, 10:06 PM

A small summary/update of fixed bugs:

- Copy/rename/move/upload onto self is no longer possible
- Logout works in all browsers
- Rename works in all browsers
- Pressing Enter key in a file input field after clicking Rename will "click" the Save link/button
- No JavaScript error when dropping files onto folders

Remaining (known) bugs:

- Renaming/moving non-existant files will rename the user's root folder, causing all items to disappear from web interface (don't ask us how you do this)
- Disallow slashes in filename (merely a visual issue)
- Renaming file with " in name displays chopped name

Keep testing and giving us feedback.

- Geir

Raymond · 27 Nov 2003, 05:33 AM

Very nice interface, Very Nice. Good work.

When can we expect to see a that interface, in Runbox Mail ?

Great Job guys.
Keep it up.

Liz · 27 Nov 2003, 06:13 PM

We will link to it from the webmail once we're done bugfixing it.

Liz

COUME · 27 Nov 2003, 07:40 PM

Hello Liz,

Will the save of attachements directly to the files-interface come at the same time, or later on??

Cheers,
Ludo

Liz · 27 Nov 2003, 08:41 PM

A little bit later on.

Liz

kpuru · 27 Nov 2003, 11:10 PM

Hey WOW... logged in to the forum today and found a neat surprise... I think RunBox should email users about these changes... Its so difficult to know otherwise...

A very neat interface... for the Files.

1. A collapse / expand all sub-folders script should be easy to put.

2. icons based on the type of file. This will require a library of icons with file extensions but should not be difficult for the basic file types... Document, Text file, Spread sheet, Presentation, image etc.

3. An column with a "file type" would be great. As in Zip, text, etc. So we can sort files accordingly.

4. Obviously, Sharing / Public Folders would be a great idea but I guess this would take more time than smaller tweaks.

5. I had read somewhere that full integration with email is on the cards is coming up.. but just putting up here as a reminder...

And will it be possible to give us options as to which folder to save the attachments to instead of a standard "Mail Attachments" folder? That would be better I guess. Secondly, Can we have a sort of "Move" attachments to Files also, instead of just "Copy"?

6. Ofcourse, A virus scan for the files that are present in the folder. This would be of great use. Sort of making sure that what we upload has no virus.

7. If possible, calculating the size of the folders as well...

8. Ok, this is only when you guys are thinking of advanced features. A sort of online Zip / Unzip facility. A user selects a folder "ABC" and all the files in the folder are Zipped and either emailed or downloaded. This is damn neat. Am i right? Maybe, we can also have uploading of a Zip file in a folder which is then unzipped in individual files. One benefit is that it saves bandwidth while uploading / downloading.

9. Again an advanced feature --> Suppose I have a folder "Temp/other". So if I send an email with an attachment to "user".files.temp.other@runbox.com, a copy of the attachment gets saved in the folder itself and a copy of the email goes to my inbox. Again, not very necessary but great if I just want to send and store files.

Will come up with More Suggestions for you guys....

puru
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roranihon · 30 Nov 2003, 09:09 AM

Hello,

First message on this forum, I just want to add my little contribution about the Files Interface.

I think it would be great if there is a "UP" link on the top of the list of files (in order to go up on the tree). Maybe near "Refresh" as there is the "Inbox" or "Sent" in the Webmail, but this time a label as "Home" or "Folder 1" etc... depend of where we are in the tree.

And instead of the Homedir on the side, if we want to see all the folders, we click on "Folders" as same as the webmail.

Last things is that where it is written : "Files: /Folder1/Folder2/" I think it should be link activated... I mean that we can click on a folder name in order to go there. Soemthink like "Files : Home/Folder 1/Folder 2/"

It is just Idea, and sorry for my poor english... It is long time I did not speak it, so I forget a lot

// And for the Files public sharring, take a look at Iomega istorage (Files Sharring) http://www.iomega.com/istorage/ . We can create a temporary login and password in order a people can get the files, and this login and password is automatically send by email with a link to the file we want to share. And after 15 days the acces is deleted... Maybe a good idea.

25 Nov 2003, 01:14 AM	#31
trond Essential Contributor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 344	Logout problems fixed OK, logging out should work properly with other browsers than IE now. I've only tried with Mozilla, so please let me know if any of you still have problems. At the moment, you still have to log in to mail and files separately, but we intend to make use of this new authentication system in mail too, shortly, so that you only have to log in once.

26 Nov 2003, 01:18 AM	#38
BKB Cornerstone of the Community Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: New York, NY Posts: 900	Good to see that the discussion has turned to the merit of Mac - now that's more like it. Oysterquartz - to answer your first question, I am typing this on my 12" PowerBook G4 1Ghz, w/Panther and Safari connected via Airport Extreme. All I can say is wow!? Like you I was a long term Apple user until I was drawn into the horrible world of PC for 10 years or so. The journey back to apple has been wonderful. Panther is, to my mind, superior to anything Windoze will achieve for years to come (has anyone heard of Loghorn?!). And the speed at which they are improving it is impressive. 4 updates in 3 years - not bad! The latest edition features some really killer apps, including Expose, which I just can't stop fooling around with, File Vault (for the security conscious), new Mail, Font Book, new Finder, etc... I am not using Virtual PC for Mac but from people whoI know use it, it is excellent. If you need more information, http://forums.macnn.com/ is a great set of forums, check it out... About .mac - i was recently gifted a one year subscription, so yes - I am using it. It is pretty cool - no doubt - mainly because it is so well integrated into the OS X , but a little bit expensive. Plus, one of the main features is a .mac email account, but I've been a runbox user for a year now, and have no intention of dropping it. The public access to iDisk is a nifty feature, but only if you need it - I don't. Any since there are hardly any viruses on the mac, i don't see how the addition of McAfee's Virex will do me any good, but hey - who's complaining. And finally, Safari. I am most impressed with the speed of it - really something. Not sure why you'd want to use IE (which comes with OS X) or Netscape, but i'm sure there are some technical reasons for doing so. All I can say is try it out, it's fantastic. Liz - I agree, the new iBooks are pretty nice. I had the chance to check them out at the Mac Store. They're getting a little bit too close to the PowerBook range in terms of features though . And don't mean to correct you on your own turf but Cheetah was 10.0, followed by Puma (10.1), Jaguar (10.2) and now Panther (10.3). I believe the next one is going to be one of: Lynx, Cougar, Leopard, and Tiger. This link explains all: http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2003/...24025054.shtml Thanks, BKB. Last edited by BKB : 26 Nov 2003 at 04:11 AM.

27 Nov 2003, 11:10 PM	#44
kpuru Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 117	Brilliant and Congrats Hey WOW... logged in to the forum today and found a neat surprise... I think RunBox should email users about these changes... Its so difficult to know otherwise... A very neat interface... for the Files. 1. A collapse / expand all sub-folders script should be easy to put. 2. icons based on the type of file. This will require a library of icons with file extensions but should not be difficult for the basic file types... Document, Text file, Spread sheet, Presentation, image etc. 3. An column with a "file type" would be great. As in Zip, text, etc. So we can sort files accordingly. 4. Obviously, Sharing / Public Folders would be a great idea but I guess this would take more time than smaller tweaks. 5. I had read somewhere that full integration with email is on the cards is coming up.. but just putting up here as a reminder... And will it be possible to give us options as to which folder to save the attachments to instead of a standard "Mail Attachments" folder? That would be better I guess. Secondly, Can we have a sort of "Move" attachments to Files also, instead of just "Copy"? 6. Ofcourse, A virus scan for the files that are present in the folder. This would be of great use. Sort of making sure that what we upload has no virus. 7. If possible, calculating the size of the folders as well... 8. Ok, this is only when you guys are thinking of advanced features. A sort of online Zip / Unzip facility. A user selects a folder "ABC" and all the files in the folder are Zipped and either emailed or downloaded. This is damn neat. Am i right? Maybe, we can also have uploading of a Zip file in a folder which is then unzipped in individual files. One benefit is that it saves bandwidth while uploading / downloading. 9. Again an advanced feature --> Suppose I have a folder "Temp/other". So if I send an email with an attachment to "user".files.temp.other@runbox.com, a copy of the attachment gets saved in the folder itself and a copy of the email goes to my inbox. Again, not very necessary but great if I just want to send and store files. Will come up with More Suggestions for you guys.... puru ----- The Best things in this world started with "Why Not" and Not with "Why". -----

30 Nov 2003, 09:09 AM	#45
roranihon Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Bordeaux, France Posts: 84	Hello, First message on this forum, I just want to add my little contribution about the Files Interface. I think it would be great if there is a "UP" link on the top of the list of files (in order to go up on the tree). Maybe near "Refresh" as there is the "Inbox" or "Sent" in the Webmail, but this time a label as "Home" or "Folder 1" etc... depend of where we are in the tree. And instead of the Homedir on the side, if we want to see all the folders, we click on "Folders" as same as the webmail. Last things is that where it is written : "Files: /Folder1/Folder2/" I think it should be link activated... I mean that we can click on a folder name in order to go there. Soemthink like "Files : Home/Folder 1/Folder 2/" It is just Idea, and sorry for my poor english... It is long time I did not speak it, so I forget a lot // And for the Files public sharring, take a look at Iomega istorage (Files Sharring) http://www.iomega.com/istorage/ . We can create a temporary login and password in order a people can get the files, and this login and password is automatically send by email with a link to the file we want to share. And after 15 days the acces is deleted... Maybe a good idea. Last edited by roranihon : 30 Nov 2003 at 09:13 AM.

25 Nov 2003, 03:09 AM	#32
BKB Cornerstone of the Community Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: New York, NY Posts: 900	Trond, Works like a gem with Safari v1.1 - no issues. Thanks, BKB.

25 Nov 2003, 07:55 AM	#33
Liz The "e" in e-mail Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Los Angeles,CA Posts: 4,652 Representative of: Runbox.com	I can second that. Liz

25 Nov 2003, 08:35 PM	#34
oysterquartz The "e" in e-mail Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Athens Posts: 2,402	Apple Users, I'm thinking of switching back! I was a long term apple user Apple 2, 3, Mac, Mac Plus, Mac SE, ... all the way up to 1995 ... Now OSX 10.3 Jaquar is seducing me How do you all like OSX and Safari? Anyone using Virtual PC on their Mac? Liz, have you demo'd .Mac? I know lots of people who've subcribed at $99/year. I think that the functionality (i.e. home pages) is great, and would really look forward to Runbox (hint, hint) allow some of it through the Files interface option of public sharing

25 Nov 2003, 11:52 PM	#35
Liz The "e" in e-mail Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Los Angeles,CA Posts: 4,652 Representative of: Runbox.com	Uhm, OS X 10.3 is called Panther. I tried .mac when it was still free, but didn't use it much. I might go for a trial run again now, but considering I have unlimited free email as a job perk, I am unlikely to pay up...even though a mac.com address would just be da bomb. I've never tried Virtual PC, I do have Safari of course, but use Netscape 7 as my primary browser and email client. Liz, who would like a second iBook (G4)

26 Nov 2003, 12:11 AM	#36
oysterquartz The "e" in e-mail Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Athens Posts: 2,402	Who can get all of those big cat references correct Tigers, Lions, Jaquars, etc., etc, .... The 14 " iBook G4 is quite nice ... maybe you'll find one under the Christmas tree as a Runbox corporate bonus!

26 Nov 2003, 12:18 AM	#37
Liz The "e" in e-mail Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Los Angeles,CA Posts: 4,652 Representative of: Runbox.com	Well, I got my current G3 14" iBook from runbox this spring, so that wouldn't be quite fair. Would have to be a gift from me to me, but I might prefer a trip to the US instead, admittedly... I think they should call the next release Cheetah btw, my favorite Big Cat! Liz

26 Nov 2003, 10:06 PM	#39
Geir The "e" in e-mail Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 2,938 Representative of: Runbox.com	A small summary/update of fixed bugs: - Copy/rename/move/upload onto self is no longer possible - Logout works in all browsers - Rename works in all browsers - Pressing Enter key in a file input field after clicking Rename will "click" the Save link/button - No JavaScript error when dropping files onto folders Remaining (known) bugs: - Renaming/moving non-existant files will rename the user's root folder, causing all items to disappear from web interface (don't ask us how you do this) - Disallow slashes in filename (merely a visual issue) - Renaming file with " in name displays chopped name Keep testing and giving us feedback. - Geir

27 Nov 2003, 05:33 AM	#40
Raymond Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 118	Very nice interface, Very Nice. Good work. When can we expect to see a that interface, in Runbox Mail ? Great Job guys. Keep it up.

27 Nov 2003, 06:13 PM	#41
Liz The "e" in e-mail Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Los Angeles,CA Posts: 4,652 Representative of: Runbox.com	We will link to it from the webmail once we're done bugfixing it. Liz

27 Nov 2003, 07:40 PM	#42
COUME Master of the @ Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Twickenham, UK Posts: 1,306	Hello Liz, Will the save of attachements directly to the files-interface come at the same time, or later on?? Cheers, Ludo

27 Nov 2003, 08:41 PM	#43
Liz The "e" in e-mail Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Los Angeles,CA Posts: 4,652 Representative of: Runbox.com	A little bit later on. Liz