Runbox.com / Posteo.de

[send1]

I am hesitating between Runbox.com and Posteo.de. Which one provides better service and is more secure? Or is there even any better European provider with all servers located in Europe (for approximately the same rate)?

[soromak]

Originally Posted by send1

I am hesitating between Runbox.com and Posteo.de. Which one provides better service and is more secure? Or is there even any better European provider with all servers located in Europe (for approximately the same rate)?

EuMX.net is also hosting mail in Europe.

[north]

Originally Posted by send1

I am hesitating between Runbox.com and Posteo.de. Which one provides better service and is more secure? Or is there even any better European provider with all servers located in Europe (for approximately the same rate)?

Well runbox = norwegian and not a part of the EUdSSR; posteo.de are german hipsters and politically left (wing) supporters and located in germany (a substate of the usa and member of the EUdSSR).

[jeffster]

Originally Posted by send1

I am hesitating between Runbox.com and Posteo.de. Which one provides better service and is more secure? Or is there even any better European provider with all servers located in Europe (for approximately the same rate)?

I looked at Posteo.de and it does look a great service. However, the fact that you cant, at the current time, use your own domain with them, was a deal breaker for me.

Hopefully, Posteo will reconsider this in future, as I would then be happyt o try them out

[17pm]

Originally Posted by jeffster

I looked at Posteo.de and it does look a great service. However, the fact that you cant, at the current time, use your own domain with them, was a deal breaker for me.

Hopefully, Posteo will reconsider this in future, as I would then be happyt o try them out

Do you've any news on this?

I would also give them a try if we could use our own domain..

[janusz]

Originally Posted by 17pm

Do you've any news on this?

Their FAQ says own domains are not supported.

[che]

There is also mailbox.org (Germany).

https://mailbox.org/en/can-i-use-e-m...h-mailbox-org/

[17pm]

Originally Posted by che

There is also mailbox.org (Germany).

https://mailbox.org/en/can-i-use-e-m...h-mailbox-org/

Ya, I know about mailbox.org... Sadly, they allow a very low number of aliases and their yubikeys are SERIOUSLY expensive!

They're asking 35euro for a standard yubikey (!!!!!)

Lastpass asks for around 25euro for the same yubikey, and you get 1 year of premium in that price!

They're trying to make serious money out of two factor authentication and that's just sad. I'm not gonna support them in any way.

[Tsunami]

EuMX is also hosted in Europe, and has a lot of praise on this forum

Mail.ru seems to be getting more and more good comments and also is out of the US' preying eyes (to the furthest extent you can totally avoid a bit of spying)

Mail.be is from Belgium and with servers in Belgium, I'm just not sure if they have any backup server outside of the EU.

You can also get a domain (or free subdomain from .afraid.org or .eu.org) and use a free DNS provider in Europe to set up your own service on EU soil.



Two PS'es:

* a service openly left wing should not be an issue. People can be left wing ; some others may just use it because it's good service without caring about the political visions of the site ; and most of all the receiver of the email will likely not know and/or not care what the mail provider stands for.

* as long as you email to people using Hotmail, Yahoo, Gmail etc the efford to avoid preying US eyes is pointless. It'd only work if both sender and receiver use a provider outside of the States.

[north]

Originally Posted by 17pm

Ya, I know about mailbox.org... Sadly, they allow a very low number of aliases and their yubikeys are SERIOUSLY expensive!

They're asking 35euro for a standard yubikey (!!!!!)

Lastpass asks for around 25euro for the same yubikey, and you get 1 year of premium in that price!

They're trying to make serious money out of two factor authentication and that's just sad. I'm not gonna support them in any way.

and still keep in mind, mailbox.org is a political-motivated hoster too! i would never ever say that they support freedom of speech.

[David]

Originally Posted by Tsunami

EuMX is also hosted in Europe, and has a lot of praise on this forum

Agreed, though I don't use EuMX currently, I received superb service from them while I did.

* a service openly left wing should not be an issue. People can be left wing ; some others may just use it because it's good service without caring about the political visions of the site ; and most of all the receiver of the email will likely not know and/or not care what the mail provider stands for.

Agreed: I always wonder why it is an issue as well - the far right extremists, and the services who support them, rarely ever get mentioned, I notice

[north]

Originally Posted by Tsunami

* a service openly left wing should not be an issue. People can be left wing ; some others may just use it because it's good service without caring about the political visions of the site ; and most of all the receiver of the email will likely not know and/or not care what the mail provider stands for.

user should know about the background of a company before they sign-up. in this case its important to know because political motivated companies (left or right, or in any other way radical (animal liberation, religious) motivated) can use their access to your mails to act against you.
in my point of view, a mailprovider should be as independent as possible and not driven by political views.
the german situation is more specific. if you are not into the leftgreen corner you are in the far right corner. there is no differentiation! strange but true.

[Tsunami]

Originally Posted by north

user should know about the background of a company before they sign-up. in this case its important to know because political motivated companies (left or right, or in any other way radical (animal liberation, religious) motivated) can use their access to your mails to act against you.
in my point of view, a mailprovider should be as independent as possible and not driven by political views.
the german situation is more specific. if you are not into the leftgreen corner you are in the far right corner. there is no differentiation! strange but true.

So imagine you use one of the politically loaded email providers. They still have to obey laws, an anarchist cannot just pretend to suddenly live in an actual anarchy. So I very much doubt they'd get away without sanctions if they would read or use any emails from their customers. I also don't think, unless the user is very political himself, that such movement has anything to gain by using someone's email in which he talks about the weather, the school results of the kids, the scores of his favourite football team, the latest new TV show ... The average email will not really be useful for any political means.


All summarised I think there is little chance that using such service could lead to issues. Even if you support a certain political direction: nothing wrong with that. And wrongful assumptions would implicitly require the receiver of the email being fully aware of the backgrounds of the email providers, which is rarely the case.

I'd not even look up the believes of a service, if it's safe and steady then it's fine by me. I never was asked the question which ideology my email provider was obeying to.