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8 Oct 2017, 04:02 PM | #31 | |
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alias@fastmail.com alias+reject@fastmail.com ? |
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8 Oct 2017, 04:10 PM | #32 | |
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if allof ( header :contains ["From", "X-Mail-from", "Return-Path"] "gmail.com", header :contains ["X-Resolved-to"] ["trueaccountname+reject@fastmail.com"] ) { reject "Please don't use this address!"; stop; } elsif header :contains ["X-Resolved-to"] ["trueaccountname+reject@fastmail.com"] { discard; stop; } |
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8 Oct 2017, 04:16 PM | #33 | |
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8 Oct 2017, 04:27 PM | #34 |
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8 Oct 2017, 04:57 PM | #35 |
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I tested Bill's script and it works for me.
When you send your test email from Gmail, are you sending it to the correct alias where you have setup the extra redirect that includes the +reject ? |
8 Oct 2017, 05:05 PM | #36 | ||
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The problem was I have two very similar domains, each with the same alias, and I needed to add the targets to the correct domain. However, this is the return message being sent back to gmail: https://i.imgur.com/1ut3NQ9.jpg I'm not getting a bounce with attachments. It's from: Mail Sieve Subsystem <postmaster@messagingengine.com> and the body of the return mail states the following: Your message was automatically rejected by Sieve, a mail filtering language. The following reason was given: INVALID Email Address ---------- Forwarded message ---------- There are no attachments, it clearly states I'm using Sieve filtering language, and it's not what a bounce normally looks like. Bill states: Quote:
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8 Oct 2017, 05:16 PM | #37 | |
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https://i.imgur.com/xmmiFMj.jpg The body still states: Your message was automatically rejected by Sieve, a mail filtering language. The following reason was given: INVALID Email Address and the subject is: Automatically rejected mail It appears it varies based upon the email service at hand from the sender. I will test it on Monday from the office using @xxxxx.ca.gov |
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8 Oct 2017, 05:20 PM | #38 |
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This is what the Google version looks like:
https://i.imgur.com/3dt5unh.jpg But there are no attachments. Seems like Gmail doesn't include the attachments. It'll be interesting to see, on Monday (in about 36 hours) what it looks like from xxxx.ca.gov |
8 Oct 2017, 06:14 PM | #39 | |
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Things can be a bit confusing with all the steps sometime. I inadvertently added the second target -- alias+reject@fastmail.com -- to a similar, but different, virtual domain with the same alias, adam@ (I have two domains -- one with first initial and last name, and the other with first name and last name -- i.e. jdoe.com and johndoe.com) and I noticed after your last message that I mixed up the two. Interesting that Gmail doesn't send the attachments, but FM does. Gmail Inbox: https://i.imgur.com/3dt5unh.jpg Gmail message body: https://i.imgur.com/1ut3NQ9.jpg Fastmail: https://i.imgur.com/xmmiFMj.jpg I'll test the xxxx.yy.tld address on Monday. The agency using MS Outlook, so I'm hopeful that it'll alert accordingly. I'll report back with the results. Last edited by FromLine : 8 Oct 2017 at 06:24 PM. |
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9 Oct 2017, 07:08 AM | #40 | ||
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As I said before, Gmail for some reason ignores much of the message disposition notice for the normal user view. But you can see these details by using Show original when reading the message in Gmail.
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9 Oct 2017, 03:19 PM | #41 |
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Just use an auto reply and set it so its works every day and not every 3 days, you have more control of the reply message being sent using this.
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10 Oct 2017, 12:04 AM | #42 | |
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When you use the two different systems (vacation or sieve reject) here are the differences in what is returned to an Outlook Exchange sender: Code:
Message field Vacation Sieve reject -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Fastmail address Mail Sieve Subsystem Icon: <none> <Message deleted without being read notice icon> Subject: Auto: <original subject> Not read: <original subject> Message body: <exact text> Sieve rejection message (see below) Code:
Your message was automatically rejected by Sieve, a mail filtering language. The following reason was given: <exact text in your Sieve rule> Bill |
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10 Oct 2017, 08:51 AM | #43 |
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But surly using a custom sieve scrip for an auto reply to a set recipient they would only get the auto reply message and not the fastmail instructions about sieve rules.
In my test I just get receiving in Fastmail my fastmail account. Hi.....just a quick auto reply to advise that your email has arrived safely in my mailbox, sorry but I'm currently away from my computer but I will reply a.s.a.p......Best Wishes Terry. |
11 Oct 2017, 12:09 PM | #44 |
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It's not working using the Outlook Client at work as follows:
https://i.imgur.com/VpUO87I.jpg In fact, it makes the matter more counter-intuitive, and a worse result. Subject: Not read: [text] and the message is: "message was deleted without being read" This makes the user believe I saw who the message was from, read the subject, and deleted it without reading it, and gives the sender an inaccurate message. Also, the vacation response is not working. When I replace the word reject with vacation, nothing is received at all (nothing returned to the sender). The reject command in Sieve Outlook (this Outlook) processes it as a "was deleted without being read" Fastmail used to have a very valuable tool - a bounce button -- which literally sent a bounce message back to the user. Last edited by FromLine : 11 Oct 2017 at 12:29 PM. |
11 Oct 2017, 12:14 PM | #45 |
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