whitelisted mail go to the Junk Folder

david chaney · 28 Oct 2003, 05:59 AM

Hello all,

I am having a program with mail from a particular mailing list getting flagged as spam and being moved to the junk folder.

I have set the address up in my address book and in the rules section and it still gets moved.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
David

Mikedp · 28 Oct 2003, 06:17 AM

From what I understand, a whitelist gets a setting of -100 on the spam score.

so if there is enough spam stuff in the email to bring it back to 5 (so 105 points of spam) then it will be marked as spam...

The easiest way to check is look at the source (the spam header part) and check if it says, Whitelisted, or not, and what the spam score is.

Mikedp · 28 Oct 2003, 06:21 AM

Forgot to add...

When viewing the email, click on View and choose Raw to see the spam header information.

david chaney · 28 Oct 2003, 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mikedp
From what I understand, a whitelist gets a setting of -100 on the spam score.

so if there is enough spam stuff in the email to bring it back to 5 (so 105 points of spam) then it will be marked as spam...

The easiest way to check is look at the source (the spam header part) and check if it says, Whitelisted, or not, and what the spam score is.

It looks like it is not being whitelisted. Here is the header:

Return-Path: <sentto-11922-16360-1067288556-**********@returns.groups.yahoo.com>
Received: from frontend1.messagingengine.com (frontend1.internal [10.202.2.150])
by server2.fastmail.fm (Cyrus v2.1.9) with LMTP; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:03:07 -0500
X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2
Subject: {SPAM 03.1} RE: [dfwscan] Discretion - Was Bedford SWAT
X-Spam-score: 3.1
X-Spam: spam
X-Spam-hits: BAYES_00, CLICK_BELOW, FORGED_OUTLOOK_HTML, FORGED_OUTLOOK_TAGS,
FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_MESSAGE, MIME_HTML_ONLY
X-Resolved-to: ****@fastmail.fm
X-Mail-from: sentto-11922-16360-1067288556-*********@returns.groups.yahoo.com
Received: from mail.messagingengine.com (localhost [127.0.0.1])
by localhost.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9982736F8CD
for <*******@fastmail.fm>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:02:43 -0500 (EST)
Received: from 10.202.2.150 ([10.202.2.150] helo=mail.messagingengine.com) by messagingengine.com
with SMTP; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:02:43 -0500
X-Mail-from: sentto-11922-16360-1067288556-********@returns.groups.yahoo.com
X-Delivered-to: <*****@fastmail.fm>
Received: from orb.pobox.com (dolly1.pobox.com [207.106.49.22])
by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6523C363160
for <******@fastmail.fm>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:02:42 -0500 (EST)
Received: from dolly1.pobox.com (localhost[127.0.0.1])
by orb.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84B2ADE93B
for <****@fastmail.fm>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:02:43 -0500 (EST)
Delivered-To: ********@pobox.com
Received: from n19.grp.scd.yahoo.com (n19.grp.scd.yahoo.com[66.218.66.74])
by orb.pobox.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 7D550DE65E
for <*************>; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:02:42 -0500 (EST)
X-eGroups-Return: sentto-11922-16360-1067288556-******@returns.groups.yahoo.com
Received: from [66.218.66.159] by n19.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Oct 2003 21:02:37 -0000
X-Sender: lex364@earthlink.net
X-Apparently-To: dfwscan@yahoogroups.com
Received: (qmail 47226 invoked from network); 27 Oct 2003 21:02:35 -0000
Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167)
by m19.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 27 Oct 2003 21:02:35 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO grouse.mail.pas.earthlink.net) (207.217.120.116)
by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Oct 2003 21:02:35 -0000
Received: from user-11fb0j5.dsl.mindspring.com ([66.245.130.101] helo=foggy15)
by grouse.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1)
id 1AEEVW-0002u9-00
for dfwscan@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:02:34 -0800
To: <dfwscan@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <000201c39ccd$bb74ab40$1202a8c0@foggy15>
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616
In-Reply-To: <00e901c39cb8$010312c0$2b09ee0c@DBDFCJ31>
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165
Importance: Normal
From: "lex364" <lex364@earthlink.net>
X-Yahoo-Profile: lex364
MIME-Version: 1.0
Mailing-List: list dfwscan@yahoogroups.com; contact dfwscan-owner@yahoogroups.com
Delivered-To: mailing list dfwscan@yahoogroups.com
Precedence: bulk
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:dfwscan-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 15:03:11 -0600
X-Spam-orig-subject: RE: [dfwscan] Discretion - Was Bedford SWAT
Reply-To: dfwscan@yahoogroups.com
Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Not everything from this list gets tagged as spam. I thought I fixed it over the weekend but I this one today was sent to JUNK.

Thanks,
David

kander · 28 Oct 2003, 07:51 AM

Hrm. Have you added both "********@returns.groups.yahoo.com" and "****can@yahoogroups.com" (dunno if you want that anonimized too, but it's at the end of the headers!) to your addressbook? Not sure which is being checked for in the whitelisting.

--K

Jeremy Howard · 28 Oct 2003, 07:59 AM

The whitelisting only works with the From: header.

You'll need to use the 'secret word' rule, and sign up to the group with username+secret, to whitelist the group (o r add some appropriate rules...)

david chaney · 28 Oct 2003, 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jeremy Howard
The whitelisting only works with the From: header.

You'll need to use the 'secret word' rule, and sign up to the group with username+secret, to whitelist the group (o r add some appropriate rules...)

Thanks Jeremy I"ll try a "from" rule. BWIW most of the rules I setup as "any header". So shouldn't that catch them?

David

hadaso · 29 Oct 2003, 07:59 AM

I think that filing in "Junk mail" in the Sieve script happens before filing rules (that is, in the Sieve script FastMail generates from the rules).

28 Oct 2003, 05:59 AM	#1
david chaney Essential Contributor Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: North Texas Posts: 276	whitelisted mail going to the Junk Folder Hello all, I am having a program with mail from a particular mailing list getting flagged as spam and being moved to the junk folder. I have set the address up in my address book and in the rules section and it still gets moved. Any ideas? Thanks, David Last edited by david chaney : 28 Oct 2003 at 06:07 AM.

28 Oct 2003, 06:17 AM	#2
Mikedp Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 79	From what I understand, a whitelist gets a setting of -100 on the spam score. so if there is enough spam stuff in the email to bring it back to 5 (so 105 points of spam) then it will be marked as spam... The easiest way to check is look at the source (the spam header part) and check if it says, Whitelisted, or not, and what the spam score is.

28 Oct 2003, 06:21 AM	#3
Mikedp Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 79	Forgot to add... When viewing the email, click on View and choose Raw to see the spam header information.

28 Oct 2003, 07:51 AM	#5
kander The "e" in e-mail Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,112	Hrm. Have you added both "******@returns.groups.yahoo.com" and "**can@yahoogroups.com" (dunno if you want that anonimized too, but it's at the end of the headers!) to your addressbook? Not sure which is being checked for in the whitelisting. --K

28 Oct 2003, 07:59 AM	#6
Jeremy Howard Ultimate Contributor Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Australia Posts: 11,501	The whitelisting only works with the From: header. You'll need to use the 'secret word' rule, and sign up to the group with username+secret, to whitelist the group (o r add some appropriate rules...)

29 Oct 2003, 07:59 AM	#8
hadaso The "e" in e-mail Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Holon, Israel. Posts: 4,857	I think that filing in "Junk mail" in the Sieve script happens before filing rules (that is, in the Sieve script FastMail generates from the rules).