every country shoud have its own branded Email

[jeffpan]

Af far as I know,

• US - Gmail/Yahoo/Hotmail/AOL
• DE - Web.de/GMX
• FR - Free.fr/Laposte
• CN - NetEase/QQ Mail
• RU - Yandex/Mail.ru
• CZ - Seznam.cz
• LV - Inbox.lv
• JP - Yahoo Japan
• KR - Naver/Hanmail
• IN - Zoho
• CH - ProtonMail

So what's the branded mail provider in your country?

[soromak]

Originally Posted by jeffpan

Af far as I know,

• US - Gmail/Yahoo/Hotmail/AOL
• DE - Web.de/GMX
• FR - Free.fr/Laposte
• CN - NetEase/QQ Mail
• RU - Yandex/Mail.ru
• CZ - Seznam.cz
• LV - Inbox.lv
• JP - Yahoo Japan
• KR - Naver/Hanmail
• IN - Zoho
• CH - ProtonMail

So what's the branded mail provider in your country?

I assume you mean free
PL- wp.pl, onet.pl, interia.pl, o2.pl, gazeta.pl. The first three from the list offer many domains to choose from.
NO- hotmail.no, yahoo.no, mailia.no, wemail.no (i do not know anybody using last two)

[jeffpan]

Originally Posted by soromak

I assume you mean free
PL- wp.pl, onet.pl, interia.pl, o2.pl, gazeta.pl. The first three from the list offer many domains to choose from.
NO- hotmail.no, yahoo.no, mailia.no, wemail.no (i do not know anybody using last two)

Norway has the famous provider Runbox though it's not free.

[soromak]

Originally Posted by jeffpan

Norway has the famous provider Runbox though it's not free.

Indeed, but i thought we make a list of free providers here?

[jeffpan]

Originally Posted by soromak

Indeed, but i thought we make a list of free providers here?

I think it should be "branded". when people say Norway Email, they first time think of Runbox. That's so branded.

[jeffpan]

Originally Posted by jeffpan

I think it should be "branded". when people say Norway Email, they first time think of Runbox. That's so branded.

for this viewpoint, I would add another ones:

• AU - Fastmail
• IT - Virgilio/Alice
• TW - HiNet

[TenFour]

With 1.5 billion active users Gmail is really a worldwide email service. I think Outlook.com/Hotmail is around 500 million users making it also pretty international.

[hadaso]

I don't see why a country should have "it's own" branded email (whatever that means). Any reason for that?


And what does "it's own branded email" mean?


I would say that Gmail and Hotmail are the USA's branded mail. They are international brands. They are used by users all around the world. The services target users all around the world. And using these services doesn't brand one as being American. Perhaps AOL is a brand used mostly by American users?
In the same way Fastmail is not really "Australia's own brand". From the beginning they acted like an international brand, marketed themselves as an international service and most of there users were American, and their equipment was always in the USA (NYC) because that's where most of their users were.
Are most of Runbox's users Norwegian? or are they just a company based in Norway that serves customers from all over the world?
ProtonMail is probably also a much more international brand than a Swiss brand.



In the same way hotmail.no is not a norwegian brand, and Yahoo Japan is not a Japanese brand etc. They are international brands owned by American companies.


When I get email from addresses in say att.net or verizon.net I'm quite sure the senders are American, and when I get email from rogers.com I'm quite positive the sender is Canadian, so they are certainly American and Canadian branded email addresses, respectively.


And to the OP's question ("what's the branded mail provider in your country?"):
I would say that Walla (walla.com or walla.co.il). It is the one most used by people in Israel that are not using international brands. There used to be some other local free email services but I hardly see them being used nowadays. Of course most people around here use gmail.com (actually almost everyone; some people don't realize that an email address doesn't have to end with @gmail.com). Some use hotmail.com (it's more popular with the Arabic speaking population). Very few still use Yahoo. Some Russian services are popular with the local Russian speaking population.

[TenFour]

some people don't realize that an email address doesn't have to end with @gmail.com).

Yes I have encountered that problem when trying to use one of my domain email addresses. I manage some email mailing lists and I would guess 90% of the addresses are gmail.com.

[jeffpan]

Originally Posted by TenFour

Yes I have encountered that problem when trying to use one of my domain email addresses. I manage some email mailing lists and I would guess 90% of the addresses are gmail.com.

here gmail is blocked by gov. so 99.9% people use a local brand.

[jeffpan]

Originally Posted by hadaso

I don't see why a country should have "it's own" branded email (whatever that means). Any reason for that?


.

Here I try to talk noting about "Nationalism" etc.
I define "branded" that when people says XXX country Email, they first time think of YYY, which is a branded email.

Or you search from google "Russia email" you most probably get yandex/mail.ru etc.

other stuff,

• yahoo japan is a separated company from Yahoo INC, it's owned by softbank, and just use yahoo name.
• ATT provides free email (as well as currently.com), so @att.net can come from the world, for example, I have 3 att email.
• Fastmail and Protonmail do provide email to the world customers, though their companies are in AU/CH.

[hadaso]

So your definition is something like "the first brand(s) that come to mind when mentioning the country and email together". And the easiest "mind" to try is Google search (though ChatGPT might be a good "mind" to ask too).

Originally Posted by jeffpan

Or you search from google "Russia email" you most probably get yandex/mail.ru etc.

I searched Google for "Russia email" and the only email service on the first page of results is mail.ru. Yandex is not there. The fourth search result was was to "Top Email Websites Ranking in Russia in December 2022" that listed mail.ru as nunmber 1, live.com as 2, gmail.com as 5, and Yandex is nowhere to be found.


Searching Google for "Israel email" provides no results about email services. only contact info for various government agencies (as was also the first result for "Russia email". Searching for "Israel email providers" produces links mainly to outdated info:
1st result is "Top Websites Ranking for Email in Israel - start.me" and I cannot understand the rational of their listing.
2nd results leads to an email addresses.com page! But it seems to be at least 20 years outdated.
4th result is to a page on fepg.net that also seems outdated.
So my conclusion is that really nothing can really be considered as Israel's email brand or brands.


Searching for "Germany email" does seem to point to WEB.DE and GMX.DE as the strongest brands, so certainly Gemany does have it's national brands of email, like Russia does.


Searching for "Switzerland email" gives Proton as the first result.


Searching for "Australia email" Fastmail is nowhere to be found on the first page of results.The first result was "Yahoo Australia". The second was "5 Best Australian Email Providers in 2022" and it listed: Gmail, Outlook, Apple/iCloud, Yahoo and Protonmail.


Now I asked ChatGPT. Here's the conversation:

Question: Given the definition of "a branded mail provider in a country" as "when people says XXX country Email, they first time think of YYY, which is a branded email", please compile a list of countries and their branded email providers.

Answer: Here is a list of some countries and their commonly used branded email providers:

1. United States: Gmail, Yahoo Mail, Outlook.com (formerly Hotmail)
2. United Kingdom: Gmail, Outlook.com, Yahoo Mail
3. Canada: Gmail, Outlook.com, Yahoo Mail
4. Australia: Gmail, Outlook.com, Yahoo Mail
5. India: Gmail, Yahoo Mail, Rediffmail
6. Germany: GMX, Web.de, T-Online.de
7. France: Orange, Free, SFR
8. Japan: Yahoo Japan Mail, Gmail, Hotmail
9. Brazil: Gmail, Yahoo Mail, Outlook.com
10. China: Tencent QQ Mail, 163.com, 126.com

Note that this list is not exhaustive, and there may be other popular email providers in each country. Additionally, the popularity of email providers can vary depending on factors such as cultural preferences, language support, and government regulations.

Question: Please refine the list, excluding brands that are more recognized as international brands in favor of brands that are more exclusive to the country that is associated with them. Also provide a longer list of 25 countries.

Answer: Sure, here is a refined list of 25 countries and their branded email providers, with a focus on providers that are more exclusive to the country they are associated with:

1. United States: AOL Mail, Comcast Email, Verizon Email
2. United Kingdom: BT Mail, TalkTalk Mail, Virgin Media Mail
3. Canada: Bell Mail, Rogers Yahoo Mail, Shaw Webmail
4. Australia: Bigpond Mail, Optus Webmail, Telstra Mail
5. India: Rediffmail, Sify Mail, Indiatimes Mail
6. Germany: GMX, Web.de, T-Online.de
7. France: Orange, Free, SFR
8. Japan: Yahoo Japan Mail, Nifty Mail, So-net Mail
9. Brazil: Bol Mail, UOL Mail, Terra Mail
10. China: Tencent QQ Mail, Sina Mail, 163.com
11. Russia: Mail.ru, Yandex.Mail, Rambler Mail
12. Italy: Libero Mail, Virgilio Mail, Tiscali Mail
13. Spain: Correo de Orange, Ono Mail, Telefonica Mail
14. Mexico: Prodigy Mail, Telmex Mail, Outlook.com.mx
15. South Korea: Naver Mail, Daum Mail, Hanmail
16. Indonesia: Yahoo Mail Indonesia, Gmail Indonesia, Telkom Mail
17. Turkey: Turkcell Mail, TTNET Mail, Superonline Mail
18. Poland: Onet Mail, Interia Mail, WP.pl Mail
19. Argentina: Yahoo Mail Argentina, Gmail Argentina, Outlook.com.ar
20. Thailand: Gmail Thailand, TrueMail, Hotmail.co.th
21. South Africa: Webmail.co.za, Telkom Mail, Mweb Mail
22. Netherlands: Ziggo Mail, KPN Mail, Telfort Mail
23. Colombia: Gmail Colombia, Yahoo Mail Colombia, Outlook.com.co
24. Philippines: Gmail Philippines, Yahoo Mail Philippines, Outlook.com.ph
25. Egypt: Yahoo Mail Egypt, Outlook.com.eg, Vodafone Mail

Note that this list is not exhaustive, and there may be other popular email providers in each country. Additionally, the popularity of email providers can vary depending on factors such as cultural preferences, language support, and government regulations

[hadaso]

I continued that conversation:

Question: Let's change the definition and say that "a branded mail provider in a country" is an email provider that when mentioned is mostly associated with that country. Please recompile the previous list using this definition.
Answer:
Sure, here's a revised list based on the new definition:

1. United States: AOL Mail, Comcast Email, Verizon Email
2. United Kingdom: BT Mail, TalkTalk Mail, Virgin Media Mail
3. Canada: Bell Mail, Rogers Yahoo Mail, Shaw Webmail
4. Australia: Bigpond Mail, Optus Webmail, Telstra Mail
5. India: Rediffmail, Sify Mail, Indiatimes Mail
6. Germany: GMX, Web.de, T-Online.de
7. France: Orange, Free, SFR
8. Japan: Yahoo Japan Mail, Nifty Mail, So-net Mail
9. Brazil: Bol Mail, UOL Mail, Terra Mail
10. China: Tencent QQ Mail, Sina Mail, 163.com
11. Russia: Mail.ru, Yandex.Mail, Rambler Mail
12. Italy: Libero Mail, Virgilio Mail, Tiscali Mail
13. Spain: Correo de Orange, Ono Mail, Telefonica Mail
14. Mexico: Prodigy Mail, Telmex Mail, Outlook.com.mx
15. South Korea: Naver Mail, Daum Mail, Hanmail
16. Indonesia: Yahoo Mail Indonesia, Gmail Indonesia, Telkom Mail
17. Turkey: Turkcell Mail, TTNET Mail, Superonline Mail
18. Poland: Onet Mail, Interia Mail, WP.pl Mail
19. Argentina: Yahoo Mail Argentina, Gmail Argentina, Outlook.com.ar
20. Thailand: Gmail Thailand, TrueMail, Hotmail.co.th
21. South Africa: Webmail.co.za, Telkom Mail, Mweb Mail
22. Netherlands: Ziggo Mail, KPN Mail, Telfort Mail
23. Colombia: Gmail Colombia, Yahoo Mail Colombia, Outlook.com.co
24. Philippines: Gmail Philippines, Yahoo Mail Philippines, Outlook.com.ph
25. Egypt: Yahoo Mail Egypt, Outlook.com.eg, Vodafone Mail

Note that this list is still based on subjective interpretation and may vary depending on individual perspectives and experiences. Additionally, there may be other popular email providers in each country that could also be considered as branded mail providers.

Question: according to the last definition, what would be "branded mail providers" associated with Australia, Switzerland, Norway, Israel and Iran?

Answer:

Based on the new definition of a branded mail provider as an email provider that is mostly associated with a particular country, here are some examples for Australia, Switzerland, Norway, Israel, and Iran:

1. Australia: Bigpond Mail, Optus Webmail, Telstra Mail
2. Switzerland: Swisscom Mail, Bluewin Mail, Sunrise Mail
3. Norway: Telenor Mail, Altibox Mail, NextGenTel Mail
4. Israel: Walla Mail, Nana10 Mail, Netvision Mail
5. Iran: Mail.Iran, Pars Online Mail, Asiatech Mail

Note that this list is based on my knowledge as of September 2021, and there may be other email providers that are more commonly associated with these countries. Also, email providers can change in popularity over time, so this list may not be accurate or up-to-date.

The change in definition doesn't seem to make a difference to ChatGPT.

[jeffpan]

the answer provided by chatgpt looks really fun. where did you query it?

[TenFour]

I suppose another way of asking this question would be:
"What major email providers are mostly known only in their home countries, and would be unlikely to be known by those outside the country."

From a practical standpoint, I like having an email address that is instantly recognized and easily typed by anyone in the world. I run some mailing lists and people with long clever email addresses before the @ and strange domains after the @ are much more likely to be entered into our systems incorrectly. There are some that are so hard to read and type that I must basically go letter by letter and carefully hand peck each one and then double-check I haven't made a mistake.