Do forwarding rules have SRS turned on?

randian · 2 Mar 2014, 04:26 AM

While aliases and virtual aliases have an explicit SRS checkbox, when you set a forwarding rule there is no SRS checkbox, so it's unclear if SRS is turned on in that case.

CyberDyne · 2 Mar 2014, 09:14 PM

Surely you'll only create a forwarding rule for an alias or virtual (domain) alias that you've already manually created in one of those corresponding settings pages, therefore you will have be given the opportunity to enable (or not) SRS at that point.

...or am I missing something?

DrStrabismus · 2 Mar 2014, 09:19 PM

In think the question is about sieve redirection as opposed to aliases that target external addresses.

randian · 3 Mar 2014, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberDyne

...or am I missing something?

Yes. If you go to Mail -> Settings (top-left popup in the web interface) there is the option "2. Forward" to create forwarding rules. That's what I used. I didn't write a sieve script.

CyberDyne · 3 Mar 2014, 02:40 AM

Surely, even if you create a forwarding rule by the method you describe, there's no reason SRS would be enabled for any alias unless you specifically enable it manually via 'Aliases', including for your original sign-in 'master' account.

randian · 3 Mar 2014, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberDyne

Surely, even if you create a forwarding rule by the method you describe, there's no reason SRS would be enabled for any alias unless you specifically enable it manually via 'Aliases', including for your original sign-in 'master' account.

Your sign-in account doesn't have an alias in 'Aliases'. It does have a Personality, but SRS cannot be set there. The method I described seems to be a pretty front-end for Advanced -> Define Rules -> Forward, which also doesn't have an SRS setting.

CyberDyne · 3 Mar 2014, 02:57 AM

My apologies. It's so long since I set up my account and so long since I last used my sign-in account for email or even to log in (Lastpass) that I was actually referring to my main email alias.

randian · 3 Mar 2014, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberDyne

My apologies. It's so long since I set up my account and so long since I last used my sign-in account for email or even to log in (Lastpass) that I was actually referring to my main email alias.

No problem. I like how Fastmail makes aliases so easy to use.

WormholeLawyer · 3 Mar 2014, 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberDyne

My apologies. It's so long since I set up my account and so long since I last used my sign-in account for email or even to log in (Lastpass) that I was actually referring to my main email alias.

Your setup sounds interesting to a new FM user. Could you explain how you are using FM is more detail?

CyberDyne · 3 Mar 2014, 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by WormholeLawyer

Your setup sounds interesting to a new FM user. Could you explain how you are using FM is more detail?

My sign-in is just that, for logging in and nothing else. I never use it for email. I simply use other aliases for email, that's all there is to it.

DrStrabismus · 3 Mar 2014, 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by randian

Yes. If you go to Mail -> Settings (top-left popup in the web interface) there is the option "2. Forward" to create forwarding rules. That's what I used. I didn't write a sieve script.

That's implemented in autogenerated sieve. It's reasonable to ask about SRS and sieve because a redirect can be based on anything, not just the alias.

WormholeLawyer · 3 Mar 2014, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberDyne

My sign-in is just that, for logging in and nothing else. I never use it for email. I simply use other aliases for email, that's all there is to it.

Ah interesting. So you have signing@cyberdyne.com and then realemail1@cyberdyne.com and alias1@cyberdyne.com as your real emails? As an example, I mean.

What is the benefit of that over making your "real email" your sign in email, in your mind?

randian · 3 Mar 2014, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by WormholeLawyer

What is the benefit of that over making your "real email" your sign in email, in your mind?

Somebody who knows your aliases can't use them to hack your account, since the aliases can't be used as logins. That's why Microsoft's decision to allow aliases to be used as alternate login names on outlook.com was so infuriating.

WormholeLawyer · 3 Mar 2014, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by randian

Somebody who knows your aliases can't use them to hack your account, since the aliases can't be used as logins. That's why Microsoft's decision to allow aliases to be used as alternate login names on outlook.com was so infuriating.

Wow! I never thought about it like that! Thanks for the clarification.

But... can you even use an alias to send mail via a third-party client like Apple Mail or Thunderbird? Wouldn't the SMTP send it as your account login, since that is the user/pass you use with Fastmail's IMAP server?

David · 3 Mar 2014, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by WormholeLawyer

Wow! I never thought about it like that! Thanks for the clarification.

But... can you even use an alias to send mail via a third-party client like Apple Mail or Thunderbird?

Sure you can - email addresses are easily forged. Think about spammers, and how spammers work.

2 Mar 2014, 04:26 AM	#1
randian Cornerstone of the Community Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 561	Do forwarding rules have SRS turned on? While aliases and virtual aliases have an explicit SRS checkbox, when you set a forwarding rule there is no SRS checkbox, so it's unclear if SRS is turned on in that case.

2 Mar 2014, 09:14 PM	#2
CyberDyne Master of the @ Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,583	Surely you'll only create a forwarding rule for an alias or virtual (domain) alias that you've already manually created in one of those corresponding settings pages, therefore you will have be given the opportunity to enable (or not) SRS at that point. ...or am I missing something?

2 Mar 2014, 09:19 PM	#3
DrStrabismus The "e" in e-mail Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 2,804	In think the question is about sieve redirection as opposed to aliases that target external addresses.

3 Mar 2014, 02:40 AM	#5
CyberDyne Master of the @ Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,583	Surely, even if you create a forwarding rule by the method you describe, there's no reason SRS would be enabled for any alias unless you specifically enable it manually via 'Aliases', including for your original sign-in 'master' account.

3 Mar 2014, 02:57 AM	#7
CyberDyne Master of the @ Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,583	My apologies. It's so long since I set up my account and so long since I last used my sign-in account for email or even to log in (Lastpass) that I was actually referring to my main email alias.