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9 Jun 2021, 07:44 PM | #31 |
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The reveal that the FBI tricked a bunch of gangsters into using a fake encrypted app called ANOM makes you wonder what other fake services are out there to entice criminals to share their secrets while thinking they are hiding them. https://www.reuters.com/breakingview...ue-2021-06-09/
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9 Jun 2021, 10:08 PM | #32 |
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Heard about that FBI stunt.
Will they ever release the GrauciFauci emails to the public? Protonmail has done some major changes: https://protonmail.com Was glad to see Vivaldi recommend Fastmail with their recent version 4: "The eagerly-awaited beta release of Vivaldi Mail, Vivaldi Feed Reader and Vivaldi Calendar are now here on your desktop. While you can choose to use Vivaldi Mail Beta with your existing mail and calendar services, you can also set up an account on vivaldi.net or add a trusted third-party service, such as Fastmail. Truly, with the new Vivaldi, we’re making it easier for you to break away from the locked ecosystems of the huge corporations and creepy, surveillance-driven practices. Vivaldi 4.0 is available on Windows, Mac and Linux computers, mobiles and tablets running Android 5 or higher, and on up-to-date Chromebooks. Get it now." https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-4-0/ Vivaldi Mail may not be anywhere near ProtonMail, but must be 99.9% better than GMail or Outlook! |
10 Jul 2021, 08:02 AM | #33 |
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Protonmail is silently discarding emails. Someone sent me an email with some important documents and it never arrived at protonmail. I moved my domain from protonmail to google workspace and the email arrived in a few hours, the server retried until my domain resoved on google MXes.
It happened before, first time I thought that it was just a server glitch. But now I cannot use the protonmail service anymore, silently discarding emails is not a good thing. That particular email was not spam and google does not marked it as spam, so I don't know why protonmail did not accept it. |
11 Jul 2021, 03:00 AM | #34 | |||
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They might have rejected it at an SMTP level (ie when the sending server offered it to their server), but you'll only know that if you can get the sender to ask their mail provider for the outgoing logs showing it being rejected. You should ask the sender to do that because they should be concerned if their service is not configured properly (eg not doing sufficent retries). Some mail services don't do any retries, or in some circumstances won't do them. Quote:
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This is the sort of thing that makes me willing to pay for email services; I /expect/ a provider to be willing to find out why things have not worked. Last edited by JeremyNicoll : 7 Sep 2021 at 08:41 PM. Reason: fixed a typo |
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6 Sep 2021, 09:48 PM | #35 |
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So much for top notch security Protonmail!
--ProtonMail Shares Activist's IP Address With Authorities Despite Its "No Log" Policy
--https://thehackernews.com/2021/09/protonmail-shares-activists-ip-address.html --Mon Sep 06 2021 07:47:59 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time) |
7 Sep 2021, 12:58 PM | #36 | |
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Luckily the only time law enforcement has reached out to me, I had nothing of value for them. I hope that by making it known that I won't risk everything and everyone, no one who would ask me to would be on my servers. |
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7 Sep 2021, 03:15 PM | #37 | |
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Even if you host your own mail server, by virtue of using email and being on the Internet you would need an IP address and presumably any determined authorities could trace you? Or am I missing something? Unless you're referring to a completely private and closed network, with no connection to the Internet? |
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7 Sep 2021, 03:46 PM | #38 | |
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Maybe you break out a custom encryption algorithm and an old favorite RFC: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc1149 TOR has a pretty good method though. It's a good place to start but not the only consideration. Laziness or missing knowledge tends to be what gets people there. |
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7 Sep 2021, 07:58 PM | #39 | |
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Let's just say you figure out how to create your own totally anonymous email server and then only connect to the Internet via some totally anonymous connection. But, how do you prevent your name, address, and phone number from being published in public databases? Never get a driver's license? Don't drive a car? Don't rent an apartment or buy a house? Don't vote? Here in the USA all of these things are totally public records that are easily accessible and have to be accurate or they don't work. Many cities how have license plate scanning cameras all over the place and even on police cars that can track every movement of your car, and now lots of places have facial recognition too. The list of ways you can be tracked go on and on. |
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7 Sep 2021, 08:23 PM | #40 |
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8 Sep 2021, 12:53 PM | #41 |
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No love for Protonmail, their billing strategy sxxx
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11 Sep 2021, 08:07 PM | #42 |
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ProtonMail under fire, from the BBC:https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-58476983
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12 Sep 2021, 10:13 AM | #43 |
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On a more theoretical level, isn't it always better to support a better company or product, rather than a worse one? So many people aren't even aware of anything other than the obvious choices like Gmail. Maybe the mere fact of your using Proton will enlighten them.
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15 Sep 2021, 11:00 AM | #44 | |
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https://arstechnica.com/information-...o-authorities/ https://techcrunch.com/2021/09/06/pr...s-authorities/ No longer can the convenient excuse be used: "Yes, but if you are going to be a axe murderer, granny groper, pedofile, etc., you can't expect email providers to actually keep their end of the TOS." |
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16 Sep 2021, 02:09 AM | #45 |
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ProtonMail’s warrant canary list gives details of data orders they have received from various authorities, whether they complied, and why or why not.
https://protonmail.com/blog/transparency-report/ |