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Old 19 Nov 2016, 07:38 AM   #61
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Yandex has been around for many years. I don't think it's going away anytime soon. Isn't it something like google for Russia?
I don't know how old my account is but its been bulletproof.
Regret I cannot say I've had the same experience, as I tried to login two days ago, and the account was disabled. Apparently I dared to login from a different public computer than the one I opened the account on. So I wasted about fifteen minutes trying to reactivate it with their gawd-awful captchas, which I failed 3 times and had to retype everything. Then I noticed the real cause....a mandatory 'pocketphone' number, like Yahoo now demands. Yeah right, I'm so going to give out a phone number for an anonymous email account! So I kicked Yandex to the curb.
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Old 19 Nov 2016, 07:53 AM   #62
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Regret I cannot say I've had the same experience, as I tried to login two days ago, and the account was disabled. Apparently I dared to login from a different public computer than the one I opened the account on. So I wasted about fifteen minutes trying to reactivate it with their gawd-awful captchas, which I failed 3 times and had to retype everything. Then I noticed the real cause....a mandatory 'pocketphone' number, like Yahoo now demands. Yeah right, I'm so going to give out a phone number for an anonymous email account! So I kicked Yandex to the curb.
I hear you. That is annoying.

I've lost access to a gmail account permanently because of an IP change. Despite jumping through numerous hoops I was never able to recover the account. Thankfully I have phone verification on my important accounts now.

Most of these big providers are not cut out for anonymous accounts. Lots of others around for that.
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Old 19 Nov 2016, 12:56 PM   #63
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I hear you. That is annoying.

I've lost access to a gmail account permanently because of an IP change. Despite jumping through numerous hoops I was never able to recover the account. Thankfully I have phone verification on my important accounts now.

Most of these big providers are not cut out for anonymous accounts. Lots of others around for that.
If one is constantly on the road, travelling (maybe for a couple of months a year) logging in to an account daily (from wherever) - would you recommend to not use a GMail account.

Or am I misunderstanding......
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Old 19 Nov 2016, 07:12 PM   #64
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As far as Yandex goes you do NOT need to have a mobile phone to create an account nor to be able to operate the account!!!
For mail.ru goes the same. And I am sure there are more (free) email providers out there that do NOT ask for a mobile phone number. And if you still want to use such service but NOT want to give your real cellphone number there are plenty of free apps arround which give you US or Canadian numbers...to which they can send the confirmation sms. If you look good you might also find some European virtual cellphone numbers...

I agree fully that the security measures with a gmail account are getting more and more troublesome if you travel a lot or if you use a VPN service..!

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Old 22 Nov 2016, 05:29 AM   #65
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Too much hassle for me. Don't have a pocketphone, don't want one, and if I did get a 'burner', I sure wouldn't be giving the number out to live.com, yahoo, etc. I took the easy way, and replaced yandex with 'mail-online.email' account. Its trouble free so far. And yes, Yandex did require a phone number...I filled out their form three times before I realized it wasn't working not because I couldn't guess the captcha, but because I refused to give a phone number.

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As far as Yandex goes you do NOT need to have a mobile phone to create an account nor to be able to operate the account!!!
For mail.ru goes the same. And I am sure there are more (free) email providers out there that do NOT ask for a mobile phone number. And if you still want to use such service but NOT want to give your real cellphone number there are plenty of free apps arround which give you US or Canadian numbers...to which they can send the confirmation sms. If you look good you might also find some European virtual cellphone numbers...

I agree fully that the security measures with a gmail account are getting more and more troublesome if you travel a lot or if you use a VPN service..!

Dutchie.
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Old 23 Nov 2016, 05:49 AM   #66
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Too much hassle for me. Don't have a pocketphone, don't want one, and if I did get a 'burner', I sure wouldn't be giving the number out to live.com, yahoo, etc. I took the easy way, and replaced yandex with 'mail-online.email' account. Its trouble free so far.
It may be 'trouble free' but it soon won't be financially free! Is your account at mail-online.email (also .dk and .se) less than three months old? Accounts at those domains are only free for the first three months, then you must upgrade to a paid account or your account will be deleted. This is not stated in any of the obvious places you will read before creating the account, but when you create it you are prompted to read a link to the TOS by an ambiguous and elliptical hint that there is information there 'that could affect your account' (or words to that effect), and when you read the fine print you find out about the forced upgrade. It seems to me like an attempt to camouflage the facts, or at least to keep potential users from finding out the truth for as long as possible.
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Old 17 Dec 2016, 07:11 PM   #67
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Looks like the trial period for mail-online.dk just expired. I created an account there and it's now demanding I "activate" my email account. Prices are pretty outrageous too, US$48/6 months for 100MB storage, almost twice as expensive as a Fastmail Standard or Runbox Medium account and more expensive than a Fastmail Professional or Runbox Max account. I chose to manually delete the account. The "free webmail for everyone" line is definitely misleading. Too bad too, as I've been looking for a .dk domain account and this was the only one that didn't require a Denmark country code cell phone number for verification.
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Old 18 Dec 2016, 07:08 AM   #68
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If one is constantly on the road, travelling (maybe for a couple of months a year) logging in to an account daily (from wherever) - would you recommend to not use a GMail account.

Or am I misunderstanding......
Sorry. Missed this earlier.

I wouldn't stop using gmail but I would use 2FA to maintain access to the account. I don't think they care where you are if you can verify via 2FA. Google Authenticator might be a better option for those not wanting to supply a phone number and its supposed to be more secure than SMS.
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Old 18 Dec 2016, 09:30 AM   #69
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Sorry. Missed this earlier.

I wouldn't stop using gmail but I would use 2FA to maintain access to the account. I don't think they care where you are if you can verify via 2FA. Google Authenticator might be a better option for those not wanting to supply a phone number and its supposed to be more secure than SMS.
Thanks beeboy: I seem to use GMail exclusively, these days. Regardless of anything else, I really do enjoy using my Chromebook.
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Old 22 Dec 2016, 06:59 AM   #70
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Thanks beeboy: I seem to use GMail exclusively, these days. Regardless of anything else, I really do enjoy using my Chromebook.
You are welcome.

Chromebooks are cool. ChromeOS has a little ways to go but all in all I was impressed with it for everyday tasks. I wiped mine for linux mostly because chromeos does not play nice with openvpn.
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