File / Web access

JasonWard · 19 Mar 2007, 06:22 PM

I'm pretty sure the answer is no, but just want to check, is it possible to grant someone read/write access to a share without giving them my username/password?

Cheers
Jason

David · 19 Mar 2007, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JasonWard

I'm pretty sure the answer is no

That is affirmative Jason. However you choose to access your filespace you need your username/password combination.

robmueller · 20 Mar 2007, 12:41 PM

There is internal support to share folders with other FM users, there's no interface to do this yet. If you PM bron about exactly who you want to share which folder with, he can probably enable it. Might be good to have some testing help

Rob

**Sherry** · 20 Mar 2007, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by robmueller

There is internal support to share folders with other FM users, there's no interface to do this yet.

So if someone shares a folder of files then it sounds like that folder would show up in another FM users File Storage. If that user is, say a Member, and the folder has more than 1mb of files in it does the Member account still have access to them because they're not really stored in their account?

Sherry

robmueller · 20 Mar 2007, 02:29 PM

Yes. When you share a folder into someone elses file space, that folder still belongs to the original person and thus is subject to the original persons quota.

FYI sharing is the reason that your folder path looks like:

/username.domain.tld/files/

If joeblogs@fastmail.fm shares his folder xyz with you, then you see:

/username.domain.tld/files/
/joeblogs.fastmail.fm/files/xyz

The hope was one do to add email maybe into there as well:

/username.domain.tld/files/
/username.domain.tld/email/

Anyway, trying to think ahead a bit...

Rob

**Sherry** · 20 Mar 2007, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robmueller

If 'joeblogs@fastmail.fm' shares his folder xyz with you, then you see:

/username.domain.tld/files/
/joeblogs.fastmail.fm/files/xyz

Does 'joeblogs@fastmail.fm' have to be the account name or can it be an Alias?

PS - Hope you have joeblogs set the same as you have jcitizen so it doesn't pick up spam.

Sherry

robmueller · 21 Mar 2007, 03:08 PM

No unfortunately, it will have to be your real username. If you're happy to share a folder with someone though, I think it's ok they know your username.

I've made that alias a "spam trap" now..

Rob

NJSS · 21 Mar 2007, 03:15 PM

Rob

I'm not sure you are correct.

I have shared folders which don't include my username & I wouldn't want to loose that feature - please!

If you wish I'll PM you an URL.

**Sherry** · 21 Mar 2007, 03:20 PM

I also don't have any friends that know my real account email address. In fact no one does except FM. I may never use that feature but still thought I should mention that in case many others feel the same?

Sherry

robmueller · 21 Mar 2007, 03:39 PM

"publishing" folders to a website is different to "sharing" folders.

When you publish, you're creating a URL to a read-only version of the files in a given folder.

When you share a folder, that folder becomes visible on the Files screen and via DAV to the user you're sharing to. Additionally, you can set write access so they can write to it as well.

Rob

**Sherry** · 21 Mar 2007, 04:16 PM

Can the user you share the xyz folder with publish that folder to the web and if yes, will it be published using "my" address of joeblogs.fastmail.fm/xyz or theirs?

Heck, I don't even see my real address in my Files screen. I don't even know my real address to a couple of my accounts. Had to login just to get one once when I needed it.

Sherry

hadaso · 26 Mar 2007, 08:40 AM

Does a shared folder have to be top level or can it be deeper?
If a folder is shared with write access, is it possible for the other account to create subfolders within it?
Can the other account publish a shared folder (or a subfolder of a shared folder).
Is there a limitation on which membership levels I can share with (right now I'm thinking about sharing a folder to my son's Guest account.)
Is it possible to share a folder with one account and share a subfolder of that folder with another account?

robmueller · 26 Mar 2007, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hadaso

Does a shared folder have to be top level or can it be deeper?
If a folder is shared with write access, is it possible for the other account to create subfolders within it?
Can the other account publish a shared folder (or a subfolder of a shared folder).
Is there a limitation on which membership levels I can share with (right now I'm thinking about sharing a folder to my son's Guest account.)
Is it possible to share a folder with one account and share a subfolder of that folder with another account?

1. Any depth. If deeper than top level, you can see directories up the tree, but nothing in them
2. Yes, write access means everything at the moment, it's not fine grained enough to be "write files but not dirs"
3. Yes, since it's mapped to the other persons file space, they can do as they want, including publishing to a website
4. No. Since it's not even a released feature, there's no limitations at the moment

5. Yes, it's done via ACLs, and they can be multiple and different per folder

Rob

**Sherry** · 26 Mar 2007, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robmueller

3. Yes, since it's mapped to the other persons file space, they can do as they want, including publishing to a website

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sherry

and if yes, will it be published using "my" address of joeblogs.fastmail.fm/xyz or theirs?

Would still be interested in the second part of my question.

Sherry

robmueller · 26 Mar 2007, 12:34 PM

Theirs.

Think of it this way:

1. You control what's published under http://yourname.fastmail.fm
2. They control what's published under http://theirname.fastmail.fm

When you share a folder from your file space into theirs, you're saying they can see your folder, but when the publish to the web, they can still only publish things into the http://theirname.fastmail.fm web namespace.

Rob

19 Mar 2007, 06:22 PM	#1
JasonWard Cornerstone of the Community Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: London, UK Posts: 834	File / Web access I'm pretty sure the answer is no, but just want to check, is it possible to grant someone read/write access to a share without giving them my username/password? Cheers Jason

26 Mar 2007, 08:40 AM	#12
hadaso The "e" in e-mail Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Holon, Israel. Posts: 4,855	Does a shared folder have to be top level or can it be deeper? If a folder is shared with write access, is it possible for the other account to create subfolders within it? Can the other account publish a shared folder (or a subfolder of a shared folder). Is there a limitation on which membership levels I can share with (right now I'm thinking about sharing a folder to my son's Guest account.) Is it possible to share a folder with one account and share a subfolder of that folder with another account?

20 Mar 2007, 12:41 PM	#3
robmueller Intergalactic Postmaster Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 6,102 Representative of: Fastmail.FM	There is internal support to share folders with other FM users, there's no interface to do this yet. If you PM bron about exactly who you want to share which folder with, he can probably enable it. Might be good to have some testing help Rob

20 Mar 2007, 02:29 PM	#5
robmueller Intergalactic Postmaster Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 6,102 Representative of: Fastmail.FM	Yes. When you share a folder into someone elses file space, that folder still belongs to the original person and thus is subject to the original persons quota. FYI sharing is the reason that your folder path looks like: /username.domain.tld/files/ If joeblogs@fastmail.fm shares his folder xyz with you, then you see: /username.domain.tld/files/ /joeblogs.fastmail.fm/files/xyz The hope was one do to add email maybe into there as well: /username.domain.tld/files/ /username.domain.tld/email/ Anyway, trying to think ahead a bit... Rob

21 Mar 2007, 03:08 PM	#7
robmueller Intergalactic Postmaster Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 6,102 Representative of: Fastmail.FM	No unfortunately, it will have to be your real username. If you're happy to share a folder with someone though, I think it's ok they know your username. I've made that alias a "spam trap" now.. Rob

21 Mar 2007, 03:15 PM	#8
NJSS Master of the @ Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 1,238	Rob I'm not sure you are correct. I have shared folders which don't include my username & I wouldn't want to loose that feature - please! If you wish I'll PM you an URL.

21 Mar 2007, 03:20 PM	#9
Sherry Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: USA Posts: 8,687	I also don't have any friends that know my real account email address. In fact no one does except FM. I may never use that feature but still thought I should mention that in case many others feel the same? Sherry

21 Mar 2007, 03:39 PM	#10
robmueller Intergalactic Postmaster Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 6,102 Representative of: Fastmail.FM	"publishing" folders to a website is different to "sharing" folders. When you publish, you're creating a URL to a read-only version of the files in a given folder. When you share a folder, that folder becomes visible on the Files screen and via DAV to the user you're sharing to. Additionally, you can set write access so they can write to it as well. Rob

21 Mar 2007, 04:16 PM	#11
Sherry Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: USA Posts: 8,687	Can the user you share the xyz folder with publish that folder to the web and if yes, will it be published using "my" address of joeblogs.fastmail.fm/xyz or theirs? Heck, I don't even see my real address in my Files screen. I don't even know my real address to a couple of my accounts. Had to login just to get one once when I needed it. Sherry

26 Mar 2007, 12:34 PM	#15
robmueller Intergalactic Postmaster Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 6,102 Representative of: Fastmail.FM	Theirs. Think of it this way: 1. You control what's published under http://yourname.fastmail.fm 2. They control what's published under http://theirname.fastmail.fm When you share a folder from your file space into theirs, you're saying they can see your folder, but when the publish to the web, they can still only publish things into the http://theirname.fastmail.fm web namespace. Rob