Trainable spam filter ready for beta testing - Page 5

trond · 4 Aug 2004, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JeffK
Most of the spam I get (in a known spam magnet alias enabled by Liz at my request) does not appear to be marked by DSPAM in spite of reporting several (at least seventy) of these emails as spam. I am wondering why this is so.

Hmm, do you mean that the messages have no DSpam-headers at all, or are they simply not recognized as spam? Messages delivered through an alias, should be scanned by DSpam too, if they're not, it's a misconfiguration from our part.

Anyway - Dspam works by looking at every word in a message, and then checking how many times every word has been used in spam messages, and how many times they've been used in non-spam messages. It then looks at the ratio of spam/innocent words to decide if it's a spam or not. "words" includes headers, so "to:spamtrapATrunbox.com" will eventually become a notorious spamword for dspam.

When it comes to pure spamtraps, I would like to add the functionality of using them to train Dspam. It is possible to do so, but I'm just not sure how to fit it in the interface. The filter page is getting pretty large by now, so we might have to put the spam and virus-filter in a separate screen.

**JeffK** · 4 Aug 2004, 08:28 PM

trond, would it help if I forwarded one of these emails to you for you to have a look at to see what I mean?

Jeff

paparuda · 7 Aug 2004, 10:53 AM

did i miss it?

how do i install the DSpam?

i downloaded it but
when i clicked it, it wasn't clear what to do with it.

it looks like you gotta know what you're doin'

thank you!

carverrn · 7 Aug 2004, 08:53 PM

Read the first post of this thread. DSPAM is currently in beta-testing with Runbox. You don't download anything you have to request Trond to setup your account for DSPAM if you want to help with the testing.

Rich

paparuda · 7 Aug 2004, 09:31 PM

i did read the first post, thank you very much! (just kidding. LOL)

because he gives the link to the DSpam download page i thought that's what i gotta do.

thank you Rich, as always!

CoreyT · 11 Aug 2004, 01:24 PM

I sent a pm to get into the test but have yet to hear from anyone. How long should I expect to wait? Been a few days already.

Thanks

carverrn · 11 Aug 2004, 09:12 PM

Trond's last post was Aug 5th so he may not have logged into this forum since then and may not have seen the PM yet.

Rich

Geir · 11 Aug 2004, 10:16 PM

CoreyT,

I can take care of it. What's your username?

- Geir

Helge · 16 Aug 2004, 08:20 PM

Will it be possible to train the filter by moving SPAM out of the inbox to a spam folder (and vice versa) via IMAP or only with the web interface?

arbitrabbit · 17 Aug 2004, 10:38 AM

Username is akhurana
Oh, and by the way, the URL of DSPAM is giving me a 404. I think it is same as this. Seems that the domain name has expired. Any idea what happened to CVS and where has the project moved?

Geir · 17 Aug 2004, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Helge
Will it be possible to train the filter by moving SPAM out of the inbox to a spam folder (and vice versa) via IMAP or only with the web interface?

This is unlikely, as we're going to move to a more standardized IMAP server. Would be nifty, though.

- Geir

Geir · 17 Aug 2004, 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by arbitrabbit
Username is akhurana
Oh, and by the way, the URL of DSPAM is giving me a 404. I think it is same as this. Seems that the domain name has expired. Any idea what happened to CVS and where has the project moved?

You're now added to our list and once it's been distributed to all the MX's (within 24 hours) you can enable the trainable filter from the Filter page.

The Dspam homepage is now available again.

- Geir

Helge · 17 Aug 2004, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Geir
This is unlikely, as we're going to move to a more standardized IMAP server. Would be nifty, though.

So, does thies mean that without the web interface there is no way to train DSPAM?
That'd be too bad as I mainly rely on IMAP.

Liz · 17 Aug 2004, 09:24 PM

I know what you mean, since I myself use POP - however, this is much like the current spamfilter really, since you cannot whitelist and blacklist other than from the webmail, for example.

Liz

CoreyT · 22 Aug 2004, 01:34 PM

One improvement I would like to see is a way to send a email to say

username+spam@runbox or username+ham@runbox to train the filter from our email clients instead of having to get into the webmail to do things.

It's working great I only have to deal with one or two spams a day now and it's missing less legit mail also.

17 Aug 2004, 10:38 AM	#70
arbitrabbit Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 10	I am willing to test Username is akhurana Oh, and by the way, the URL of DSPAM is giving me a 404. I think it is same as this. Seems that the domain name has expired. Any idea what happened to CVS and where has the project moved?

4 Aug 2004, 08:28 PM	#62
JeffK Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Kingaroy, AU Posts: 3,177	trond, would it help if I forwarded one of these emails to you for you to have a look at to see what I mean? Jeff

7 Aug 2004, 10:53 AM	#63
paparuda Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: eastcoastus Posts: 72	did i miss it? how do i install the DSpam? i downloaded it but when i clicked it, it wasn't clear what to do with it. it looks like you gotta know what you're doin' thank you!

7 Aug 2004, 08:53 PM	#64
carverrn Intergalactic Postmaster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 5,606 Representative of: Runbox.com	Read the first post of this thread. DSPAM is currently in beta-testing with Runbox. You don't download anything you have to request Trond to setup your account for DSPAM if you want to help with the testing. Rich

7 Aug 2004, 09:31 PM	#65
paparuda Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: eastcoastus Posts: 72	i did read the first post, thank you very much! (just kidding. LOL) because he gives the link to the DSpam download page i thought that's what i gotta do. thank you Rich, as always!

11 Aug 2004, 01:24 PM	#66
CoreyT Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 3	I sent a pm to get into the test but have yet to hear from anyone. How long should I expect to wait? Been a few days already. Thanks

11 Aug 2004, 09:12 PM	#67
carverrn Intergalactic Postmaster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 5,606 Representative of: Runbox.com	Trond's last post was Aug 5th so he may not have logged into this forum since then and may not have seen the PM yet. Rich

11 Aug 2004, 10:16 PM	#68
Geir The "e" in e-mail Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 2,938 Representative of: Runbox.com	CoreyT, I can take care of it. What's your username? - Geir

16 Aug 2004, 08:20 PM	#69
Helge Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 2	Will it be possible to train the filter by moving SPAM out of the inbox to a spam folder (and vice versa) via IMAP or only with the web interface?

17 Aug 2004, 09:24 PM	#74
Liz The "e" in e-mail Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Los Angeles,CA Posts: 4,652 Representative of: Runbox.com	I know what you mean, since I myself use POP - however, this is much like the current spamfilter really, since you cannot whitelist and blacklist other than from the webmail, for example. Liz

22 Aug 2004, 01:34 PM	#75
CoreyT Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 3	One improvement I would like to see is a way to send a email to say username+spam@runbox or username+ham@runbox to train the filter from our email clients instead of having to get into the webmail to do things. It's working great I only have to deal with one or two spams a day now and it's missing less legit mail also.