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Old 6 Nov 2019, 05:53 AM   #31
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If you want to know (when reading a message) who mail is really to or from then you can add the extra headers X-Delivered-To and X-Mail-from in the advanced section of the preferences screen (perhaps also Return-Path).
Yes, I also do that, but it's far from ideal.
You can't see who a mail was sent to unless you open it, and in the mobile interface (which I use mostly), it means four extra clicks every time I open an e-mail:
(1) '...',
(2) 'Show details',
(3) '...',
(4) 'Hide details'.

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I think the main problem with it is that it's one way.
Yes indeed. An archive or back-up is completely useless if the things archived or backed-up can't be restored when they are needed!
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Old 6 Nov 2019, 06:29 PM   #32
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Yes indeed. An archive or back-up is completely useless if the things archived or backed-up can't be restored when they are needed!
It's not /completely/ useless. You get a zip; if you unpack it, it's full of files, one per email. You can search them (using your OS's file-search facilities) and read them - if necessary - with just a text editor. It's a long way better than not having a copy of the mails at all.

You can also import them to desktop email clients and probably some other providers' online email systems. It's a nuisance that you can't get them into FM again directly, but it doesn't make the archives useless.
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Old 6 Nov 2019, 07:41 PM   #33
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You can also import them to desktop email clients and probably some other providers' online email systems. It's a nuisance that you can't get them into FM again directly, but it doesn't make the archives useless.
IIRC they are eml files, that any mail client can open, so that you can then just configure your FastMail account on your mail client and copy or move the messages to any folder you like. However I don't regularly use an email client so for me this would require that I configure one on some computer. So it's not entirely "one-way", but it's also not "two-way". It's just not a dead end street: you can go back using some other streets through a neighborhood you're perhaps not entirely familiar with. A simple way to upload a file full of messages back would be much more convenient.
If something like this is provided some time in the future (a simple mechanism to upload a single zip file full of eml files, or what ever is in the mail archives downloaded from FastMail) I would be happy that it would also upload files in the mbox format (I have many collections of email from the 1990's that were on various university unix systems I used back then, created by the unix mail command. I think the format is called "mbox"). For almost 20 years I consider uploading them to FastMail so that I have all of the email I ever saved in one easily searchable place that I use every day, but I never did it because it involved more that one step and having to understand in advance and plan the required steps.
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Old 9 Nov 2019, 10:40 PM   #34
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Read Receipts.
Dark mode for the Android App (not a web wrapper but a real real app)
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Old 10 Nov 2019, 10:18 AM   #35
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Read Receipts.
I hope there is a box to tick so we don't have to use it....
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Old 10 Nov 2019, 01:07 PM   #36
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not a web wrapper but a real real app
Out of curiosity... what are you hoping a "real real app" would let you do that can't be done with the web interface or with a "web wrapper"?
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Old 11 Nov 2019, 06:30 PM   #37
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Out of curiosity... what are you hoping a "real real app" would let you do that can't be done with the web interface or with a "web wrapper"?
The only important functionality I am aware of that is much easier with a non browser implementation is offline support. If you really need that today, you must use a mail client like Thunderbird. Personally, I do not see an offline mail client certified by FastMail themselves as that important.
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