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25 May 2010, 11:05 AM | #1 | |
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Changes to Yahoo Mail Plus DEAs (Disposable Email Addresses)
http://www.ymailblog.com/blog/2010/0...ail-addresses/
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The Disposable Email Address feature on Yahoo Mail Plus accounts had an option to file received messages in a folder other than Inbox (similar to the option available for messages fetched from external POP3 accounts). This was the only reliable way to catch messages received via Bcc. But the recently updated DEA feature removed this option and now requires us to create our own folder filing rule, with the disposable address as the "recipient" filter parameter. The bad news (and this is an old gripe) is that Yahoo's recipient filtering does not catch Bcc'ed incoming messages since it doesn't check the envelope recipient address -- nor can we filter on a custom header such as the Yahoo-added X-Apparently-To header that contains this envelope address. It's frustrating because the optional "To" column in the message list pane (supposedly available after adding an extra email address or a DEA) does correspond to the envelope recipient address for incoming messages (messages fetched from external POP3 accounts have no envelope, in which case the first address in the To header is displayed). So we can see which messages were received via a DEA (or the Yahoo extra email address), but we can't reliably filter those messages. I wish the DEA feature had kept the option to file received messages in a custom folder. In fact it would be great if the Yahoo extra email address also added this option! |
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25 May 2010, 11:10 AM | #2 |
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I have a friend who has Yahoo Mail Plus and uses different personal email addresses on her own domains. The first personal address forwards to her Yahoo address and goes to the Inbox, while her other personal addresses forward to different Yahoo DEAs that were configured to file to different folders.
But after the DEA update and the switch to using recipient filtering rules, incoming messages received to her other addresses via Bcc are no longer filed in the appropriate folders. So now I'll have to store incoming mail for her other addresses in separate POP3 mailboxes and have Yahoo Mail poll them (so that they can still be placed in different folders). But that means the messages won't show up immediately, and what's worse Yahoo Mail doesn't even seem to support automatic polling of external accounts. P.S. I would've set her up with a Yahoo Small Business (ie. Business Email) account, which is directly set up on a user's own domain. But these accounts can't host more than one domain (another old gripe), and there's no DEA nor any other support for multiple recipient addresses. |
30 May 2010, 12:58 AM | #3 |
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Yes, this worked 100% accurately and reliably in the past. With the recent changes, some users have noticed the above and other issues. More info at (see comments from users, below the article):
http://buzz.yahoo.com/article/1:yaho...mail-Addresses You can also find my article "Did Yahoo break Disposable Email Addresses" online at Usenet and Cnet. I'm interested to know if other Yahoo Mail Plus users have also found the recent changes to be extremely disruptive. |
30 May 2010, 12:27 PM | #4 |
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Thanks, I also saw your discussions on the Y-Mail group (here and here).
The DEA functionality has been downgraded in a lot of ways, and it's not surprising that Yahoo Mail Plus subscribers who have come to rely on (hundreds of) DEAs are now facing various insurmountable problems. I only touched on one aspect in this thread, in regards to the recipient filtering rules not being a reliable way to deliver to folders (they won't work when the user's address is not explicitly listed in the To or Cc header). This has been one of the shortcomings since the very beginning. For example, see this post and this post from 2005. |
31 May 2010, 04:17 AM | #5 | |
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I'm the 'Gerry' in those posts on the Y-Mail group and on 'Buzz'. Glad to see the discussing is going on elsewhere as well. Not that I feel it will do any good mind you. If gmail would just pick up this option and a few other things, there really would be no reason to stick with Yahoo. You can do something similar to DEAs with gmail now, but the 'base address' is your regular gmail email address...which is not as good of course. With gmail the separator is the + sign. so if your addresses is myaddess@gmail, then you can use other addresses like myaddress+amazon@gmail.com...the only 'setup' involved would be for the filter if you chose to use one. -- Gerry |
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31 May 2010, 05:40 AM | #6 |
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I used their live chat today to report an issue with being unable to edit any of my existing DEAs.
They gave me the following response: Mitch: I have checked on this issue and found that this is a known issue for Yahoo! Mail. Mitch: Our Engineering team is already investigating this issue and working on a possible fix. The ticket number for this issue is 3633480. Mitch: We appreciate your patience and understanding while we work to resolve this issue. |
1 Jun 2010, 05:01 AM | #7 | |
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Thanks for the info Gerry. I'm sorry to read about your troubles from the other posts, though I'm not hopeful of a resolution either.
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P.S. And in addition to plus addressing, you can also interpose dots (periods) in the localpart of your Gmail address. Note that this won't work with Google Apps addresses (where dots are treated as distinct characters). For example, mail sent to all these addresses will go to the same Gmail account: abc@gmail a.bc@gmail ab.c@gmail a.b.c@gmail abc+whatever@gmail a.b.c+whatever@gmail |
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1 Jun 2010, 02:02 PM | #8 |
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If you want to block one of those Gmail 'disposable' addresses, is there a way to black list them in Gmail. Or does the user create a filter (rule) to label the message to that username as spam?
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