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Old 8 May 2015, 03:59 PM   #1
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Tutanota - open source encrypted email

https://tutanota.com

Automatically encrypted mailbox
As with Protonmail you can send/receive encrypted emails with non-Tutanota users (even attachments are encrypted)
Open source
Based in Germany

I'm rather new here and I've read interesting threats on encrypted mail services. What I found missing is a threat on Tutanota. So here it is! After checking out all of them, I've decided for this one because it is open source.
What's your take on this?

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Old 8 May 2015, 09:23 PM   #2
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I had to search the website a bit. For all interested, here's the link to Github: https://github.com/tutao/tutanota
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Old 9 May 2015, 12:17 AM   #3
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I use it and I think itīs very good but more things need to come.
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Old 11 May 2015, 07:38 PM   #4
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Did you find anything on ip addresses? I know they don't save ip addresses, but do they also strip them of emails sent?

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Old 12 May 2015, 06:26 PM   #5
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Yes, they strip your ip address in emails sent. Their own ip address shows in the headers.
That's what I was looking for. Thanks for testing it!
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Old 13 May 2015, 02:46 AM   #6
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Problems:
  • Android app is on google play store but not f-droid.org. Yikes! Probably CSS too.
  • tor-unfriendly knowledgebase (hosted by uservoice.com)
  • unsupported browsers blocked (so visitors who mask their user-agent for privacy can be blocked even when they are actually on a supported browser)
  • PGP/smime under development (so they have the same key management problems that protonmail does, as I explain here: http://emaildiscussions.com/showthread.php?t=69054)

What's good:
  • tutanota itself is tor-friendly, so at least you can use the important things over tor.
  • they don't ask new applicants for names or email addresses; it's quite minimal actually.
  • tutanota at least recognizes that they have a key management problem, and they are working on adding PGP (unlike protonmail who seems to be focused on less important features)
  • their donation page discloses where the money will go. With 14% going to general overhead (coffee), and the rest going to development, that seems relatively generous to users. And the transparency is good too.

Tutanota has more potential than protonmail, and could become as effective as hushmail.com if they add PGP. If they add s/mime (which is also on the radar), they could become the only web-based conduit between the two technologies (so users could securely correspond with hushmail or safe-mail users).
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Old 19 May 2015, 04:49 PM   #7
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This looks interesting. Can I use tutanota with my own domain?
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Old 20 May 2015, 09:48 PM   #8
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This looks interesting. Can I use tutanota with my own domain?
Judging from their blog they are currently working on it: https://tutanota.de/blog/posts/development-feature-list
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Old 21 May 2015, 01:00 AM   #9
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This site doesn't mind self promotion from persons affiliated with / representing email services.

Can everyone affiliated with Tutanota raise their hand (PM Edwin) so they can get their profiles properly branded?

I suspect it will make the discussion less strange to follow.
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Old 22 May 2015, 05:43 AM   #10
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They only offer one alias, they should offer more, that's way too few.
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Old 22 May 2015, 08:18 AM   #11
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Tutanota has more potential than protonmail
How so?
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Old 23 May 2015, 11:33 PM   #12
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As with Protonmail you can send/receive encrypted emails with non-Tutanota users (even attachments are encrypted)
Why do you say "as with protonmail", when you say
over here
that protonmail exposes attachments?
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Old 29 May 2015, 06:19 PM   #13
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Why do you say "as with protonmail"...
Yeah, sorry I should have been more precise. The thing is I like all these services, but it gets confusing when you look at the details. Who encrypts what? which is the better system? Tutanota? Proton? I'm just not techie enough for this, and sometimes I'm not sure if it's really good or just marketing blabla. I'll stick with it anyways, at least it's better than providers that openly use my data for advertising.
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Old 29 May 2015, 09:53 PM   #14
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Who encrypts what?
Check out the comparison chart on this page: https://scryptmail.com/login

There is a "more" link that makes more options from that chart viewable.

Does that help to answer the question? Do you see anything wrong or that's missing?
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Old 1 Jun 2015, 05:09 PM   #15
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Does that help to answer the question? Do you see anything wrong or that's missing?
Thanks! This is pretty extensive. What about open source? I don't see this in the list...
What do the stars mean?
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