Pine and IMAP

JohnnyUtah · 21 Mar 2002, 11:32 AM

I am trying to configure Pine to work with my fastmail account, and I'm running into some problems. I edited the .pinerc file:

folder-collections=Mail mail/[ ], FastMail {fastmail.fm}INBOX.[ ]

It seems to work and asks for my password and logs me in; however, it shows my inbox as being empty, although in fact I do have emails that need to be read.

Another problem that I'm having is that I'm unable to set fastmail as my SMTP server in Pine. I am a member and not a guest, so I should be able to use this option.

Any detailed suggestions would be appreciated

Jeremy Howard · 21 Mar 2002, 12:00 PM

Search this forum for 'Pine' and you'll find a few tips for both of these issues. Let us know if these don't fix your problem.

JohnnyUtah · 21 Mar 2002, 04:47 PM

What I ended up doing to get it to work is a just a little different than what I found in the forum.

In incoming-folders:
{fastmail.fm/user=userid/notls}INBOX

folder-collections
{fastmail.fm/user=userid/notls}INBOX.[]

I couldn't get it to work with ssl, and it wouldn't work with a label. I'm using Pine 4.44 on Mandrake 8.2. When I login I get a message saying it's not secure, so if I missed something could somebody please let me know?

spiderman · 21 Mar 2002, 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JohnnyUtah
When I login I get a message saying it's not secure, so if I missed something could somebody please let me know?

I believe this message will go if you replace fastmail.fm by www.fastmail.fm .

SM

JohnnyUtah · 22 Mar 2002, 03:18 AM

I inserted the www. and it didn't change things one way or the other....I'm pretty sure it has to do with the notls in my statements:

In incoming-folders:
{fastmail.fm/user=userid/notls}INBOX

folder-collections
{fastmail.fm/user=userid/notls}INBOX.[]

I tried ssl, and that did not work. I get a message that says my fastmail account is insecure. Some of the posts I searched said that fastmail doesn't support tls, but that it does support ssl; is this still the case?

jam · 3 Apr 2002, 05:07 AM

Fastmail *does* support tls....
It always has for their imap server, just not for their smtp server.

The problem is that unix pine doesn't come with encryption built in by default, only pc-pine.

You can download a version that supports SSL here, if you know how to build it...
http://www.washington.edu/pine/getpi...pted/index.cgi

I finally installed pc-pine 4.44 after travelling abroad for the last couple of months, and noticed a few things.

I think when they upgraded their smtp server to support tls (or at some other point), it changed the process a bit. You used to have to specify user=UID or you wouldn't be able to connect, and if you wanted /tls you had to specify it. Now, their servers automatically prompt you for that info and try to establish a secure connection even if you haven't specified it.... So you have to use /notls if you *don't* want an encrypted session, even with the fastmail.fm server.

[Edit: Actually I now think it's a Pine 4.44 thing. Same thing happens with other accounts I have.]

I learned a couple of other things, putting together a clean install again. Perhaps I'll put together a faq.

-jam

JohnnyUtah · 3 Apr 2002, 05:29 AM

Thanks a lot Jam, that was very informative. I'll use the link and download a version that supports tls. If you put up a FAQ let me know-

Floyd

jam · 6 Apr 2002, 09:26 AM

I've written up a pine faq in three parts.

The question is should I post it here, or e-mail it Jeremy and Rob?

-jam

JohnnyUtah · 6 Apr 2002, 10:45 AM

You could try both, and could I talk you into emailing it to me? I'm taking over my local LUG, and we could use it, with your permission of course

jam · 6 Apr 2002, 03:40 PM

Sure. Where do you want me to send it? I think we both have the e-mail option turned off....

jam - paranoia is good, especially with the friends I have.

Jeremy Howard · 6 Apr 2002, 04:18 PM

The email option is pretty safe BTW--it doesn't show your email address, it just lets the user use a web form to send you email. This isn't made clear by the User CP unfortunately.

21 Mar 2002, 11:32 AM	#1
JohnnyUtah Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 11	Pine and IMAP I am trying to configure Pine to work with my fastmail account, and I'm running into some problems. I edited the .pinerc file: folder-collections=Mail mail/[ ], FastMail {fastmail.fm}INBOX.[ ] It seems to work and asks for my password and logs me in; however, it shows my inbox as being empty, although in fact I do have emails that need to be read. Another problem that I'm having is that I'm unable to set fastmail as my SMTP server in Pine. I am a member and not a guest, so I should be able to use this option. Any detailed suggestions would be appreciated

21 Mar 2002, 04:47 PM	#3
JohnnyUtah Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 11	What I ended up doing to get it to work is a just a little different than what I found in the forum. In incoming-folders: {fastmail.fm/user=userid/notls}INBOX folder-collections {fastmail.fm/user=userid/notls}INBOX.[] I couldn't get it to work with ssl, and it wouldn't work with a label. I'm using Pine 4.44 on Mandrake 8.2. When I login I get a message saying it's not secure, so if I missed something could somebody please let me know? Last edited by JohnnyUtah : 21 Mar 2002 at 05:52 PM.

3 Apr 2002, 05:07 AM	#6
jam Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 66	better late than never? Fastmail does support tls.... It always has for their imap server, just not for their smtp server. The problem is that unix pine doesn't come with encryption built in by default, only pc-pine. You can download a version that supports SSL here, if you know how to build it... http://www.washington.edu/pine/getpi...pted/index.cgi I finally installed pc-pine 4.44 after travelling abroad for the last couple of months, and noticed a few things. I think when they upgraded their smtp server to support tls (or at some other point), it changed the process a bit. You used to have to specify user=UID or you wouldn't be able to connect, and if you wanted /tls you had to specify it. Now, their servers automatically prompt you for that info and try to establish a secure connection even if you haven't specified it.... So you have to use /notls if you don't want an encrypted session, even with the fastmail.fm server. [Edit: Actually I now think it's a Pine 4.44 thing. Same thing happens with other accounts I have.] I learned a couple of other things, putting together a clean install again. Perhaps I'll put together a faq. -jam Last edited by jam : 6 Apr 2002 at 03:37 PM.

6 Apr 2002, 09:26 AM	#8
jam Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 66	Okay! I've written up a pine faq in three parts. The question is should I post it here, or e-mail it Jeremy and Rob? -jam

21 Mar 2002, 12:00 PM	#2
Jeremy Howard Ultimate Contributor Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Australia Posts: 11,501	Search this forum for 'Pine' and you'll find a few tips for both of these issues. Let us know if these don't fix your problem.

22 Mar 2002, 03:18 AM	#5
JohnnyUtah Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 11	I inserted the www. and it didn't change things one way or the other....I'm pretty sure it has to do with the notls in my statements: In incoming-folders: {fastmail.fm/user=userid/notls}INBOX folder-collections {fastmail.fm/user=userid/notls}INBOX.[] I tried ssl, and that did not work. I get a message that says my fastmail account is insecure. Some of the posts I searched said that fastmail doesn't support tls, but that it does support ssl; is this still the case?

3 Apr 2002, 05:29 AM	#7
JohnnyUtah Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 11	Thanks a lot Jam, that was very informative. I'll use the link and download a version that supports tls. If you put up a FAQ let me know- Floyd

6 Apr 2002, 10:45 AM	#9
JohnnyUtah Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 11	You could try both, and could I talk you into emailing it to me? I'm taking over my local LUG, and we could use it, with your permission of course

6 Apr 2002, 03:40 PM	#10
jam Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 66	Sure. Where do you want me to send it? I think we both have the e-mail option turned off.... jam - paranoia is good, especially with the friends I have.

6 Apr 2002, 04:18 PM	#11
Jeremy Howard Ultimate Contributor Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Australia Posts: 11,501	The email option is pretty safe BTW--it doesn't show your email address, it just lets the user use a web form to send you email. This isn't made clear by the User CP unfortunately.