attachment URL structure request

Suntydt · 5 Jan 2010, 10:28 AM

I have been trying to display some images in my email. I'm about three hours into this now and I'm dropping my problem here.
I have switched to Rich Text Format for the email.
I first started trying to embed images from photobucket using the URL structure, then the img URL address and I tried HTTP image insert structure. None of these worked.
I have copied the images into the file area of my fast mail account so I can directly attach the files to the email but I can't figure out how to insert them into the email. Can anyone provide a basic URL structure for attached files to embed them into the message?

Thank you for any assistance.

Suntydt

n5bb · 5 Jan 2010, 01:43 PM

Welcome to the EMD Forums, Suntydt!

Here is what you need to do if you want to use images from your Fastmail file storage inserted into emails:

On the Files screen:
- Make a subfolder using the Action tool Create subfolder feature (at the right of the Download zip button) to hold the images.
- Upload the images to this new subfolder.
- In the folder tree on the left, click on the parent folder of the subfolder you just created. The parent folder is the higher level folder which holds that subfolder.
- You will now see your subfolder in the list at the right (along with any other subfolders of that parent). In the Website column, click the Create link for the folder which contains the images.
- Create a website link for that folder. Do not password protect the link. Click the + Create website button to create the new link.
- If you click the Websites button at the upper right of the Files screen you will see all website links you have created.
- Now in the Files screen you can select (click) the folder containing the images, and in the list on the right you will see a list of the image files. Each image file will have a link in the Website column. Right-click one of these link items and choose Copy link location in your browser (if you are using Firefox -- if using Internet Explorer, you can click the link and copy the URL in your browser bar).
Now Compose a new message and insert the image. Paste the link you just made for the image file, and then be sure to click the Reset size button (looks like a circular arrow chasing itself) to reset the size to the image size you are inserting.

Bill

**Sherry** · 5 Jan 2010, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by n5bb

Right-click one of these link items and choose Copy link location in your browser (if you are using Firefox -- if using Internet Explorer, you can click the link and copy the URL in your browser bar).

If this helps then if using IE (Internet Explorer) you should be able to right/click the link and choose "Copy Shortcut". At least with IE8. Pretty sure with IE7 also but that PC isn't on right now to check...

Sherry

ChinaLamb · 5 Jan 2010, 05:11 PM

I think the question is how to embed the image in the message to be sent with the message, not just linked to a website, is that right, Suntydt?

I am not sure this is possible with the interface. You can have attachments, you can have images that are html linked, but I don't think you can embed those images to be sent as a part of the email - at least not from within the fastmail interface....

I may be wrong about that but I cannot find any information about embedding images in the fastmail wiki...

**Sherry** · 5 Jan 2010, 05:24 PM

I'm not sure when we were able to start doing that but I have embedded pictures in emails when practicing from the web. There's a choice to Insert/Edit Image button and when clicked you can paste in the url from your File Storage and it puts it right in the email.

Sherry

ChinaLamb · 5 Jan 2010, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sherry

I'm not sure when we were able to start doing that but I have embedded pictures in emails when practicing from the web. There's a choice to Insert/Edit Image button and when clicked you can paste in the url from your File Storage and it puts it right in the email.

Sherry

Sherry, I tried the button, attach from file space and that merely put the image as an attachment, It did not put it in my message.

I selected the insert image. Then pasted my link from my file location, then resized it and sent it. That sent the email with the image link (the picture showed up as a part of the email) but the image was still externally linked.

If you are able to send images in emails embedded within the email, not just as images that appear in the email but externally linked, please let me know how to do this.

/cl

**Sherry** · 5 Jan 2010, 05:59 PM

I just sent an embedded image to my Yahoo account. It showed in the FM compose window before sending and in the Yahoo email. I clicked on the button for "Insert/Edit Image" (not Insert/Edit Link) in the top row of buttons when in the Rich Text Compose screen then pasted in the link (the link to the right of the image file in the column that says "Website"). I didn't fill in any of the info choices.

That doesn't mean it wasn't a direct link in Yahoo but it didn't show up as an attachment that I could see???

Sherry

ChinaLamb · 5 Jan 2010, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sherry

I just sent an embedded image to my Yahoo account. It showed in the FM compose window before sending and in the Yahoo email. I clicked on the button for "Insert/Edit Image" (not Insert/Edit Link) in the top row of buttons when in the Rich Text Compose screen then pasted in the link (the link to the right of the image file in the column that says "Website"). I didn't fill in any of the info choices.

That doesn't mean it wasn't a direct link in Yahoo but it didn't show up as an attachment that I could see???

Sherry

I am using the insert edit image, not link.

When looking at the message as I receive it in fastmail, the size of the message is only a few k which is my first indication that the image is not embedded. The next indication is that fastmail says the image is "externally linked."

Therefore, at least for me, I get image place-holders with externally linked images, not place-holders with internally embedded images...

/cl

Suntydt · 5 Jan 2010, 11:17 PM

Thanks everyone for the input. I haven't tried any of them yet but I will here shortly.

ChinaLamb saw what I was asking about. I have recieved emails with attached images that were also displayed in the email. So I was trying to duplicate those types of emails.

To give you an idea of what I am doing I have a list of ten things to do to be a good humanitarium. I am trying to put pictures to it. One of them is Be Patient and Wise, here is the picture I chose for it:
Patience And Wisdom

Suntydt · 5 Jan 2010, 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sherry

I'm not sure when we were able to start doing that but I have embedded pictures in emails when practicing from the web. There's a choice to Insert/Edit Image button and when clicked you can paste in the url from your File Storage and it puts it right in the email.

Sherry

Thanks Sherry, I found this and tried it. Read about doing it in the help. I sent the email to myself and all it showed were little grey boxes. I kind of figured it wouldn't work because in the help it said the image would be displayed in the "Insert/Edit" pop up window display area and they didn't display. Just showed all that odd text filling the display area when you open up the tool.

**Sherry** · 6 Jan 2010, 02:56 AM

Hmm, I wonder if it has to do with the browser and security settings your using? Like it may require JavaScript (not Java) to be enabled? Also, in IE8 I will get a pop-up window asking something about if I'll allow something from a non-secure site (I log in FM using the Secure button. If I say yes then the picture shows up and it I say no I just get the same place-holder as your getting.

Sherry

jgoldberg · 6 Jan 2010, 07:24 AM

Can you look at the raw source of the sent email.

For the case where there is just a link you will find a URL.

For the two cases where the image is also emailed you will find a message part that looks something like

Code:

-------= Part_XXXXX --
Content-Tranfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Type: image/jpeg (or gif or png or whatever)

For images that are to be displayed within the message (as far as the viewer is concerned) you should also see

Code:

Content-disposition: inline

While for those are presented at attachments it should be

Code:

Content-disposition: attachment

It would help us see what is going on if you could report what actually gets sent. Is there an image "part" and if so, what is its content-disposition.

Note that for messages where the image appears to be embedded in an HTML message, you should have a Content-id: instead of a Content-disposition.

**Sherry** · 6 Jan 2010, 08:14 AM

I don't see either of the following in the "sent" message.

content-disposition.
Content-id: instead of a Content-disposition.

However, as a test, I renamed the file so Yahoo wouldn't be able to find it if it looks for it. The picture no longer showed in the Yahoo email so it does seem it is using a link to it instead of totally embedding it? (when renaming it back it did load the picture again)

Sherry

ChinaLamb · 6 Jan 2010, 08:57 AM

That you would get a message that secure and non secure content was being mixed on the same webpage proves that the images are offsite. The picture would be considered secure if it was embedded in the email, as it was only referenced, it is an external object, and you only got the placeholder.

Renaming a picture would have no impact whatsoever on an embedded image - this only seals the case.

To answer Suntydt, it does not appear to be possible to embed an image in an email through the fastmail interface. You can reference them to show up in an html message, but you cannot embed them so that the picture data is sent along with the file.

/cl

hadaso · 12 Feb 2010, 09:37 AM

Though there isn't currently a way to embed images in the compose screen, and it might be a lot of work to fully implement this capability, perhaps it is possible to put a link near each attachment in the compose sceen (with a cid: url) that can be copied and pasted to an <img> tag in the email (or to an <a> tag). Also perhaps a checkbox for "inline" that changed the "Content-disposition" header to "inline". (and for the long term and ability to impsrt and resize an image attachment through ckeditor's "insert image" dialog).

5 Jan 2010, 10:28 AM	#1
Suntydt Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Tennessee, USA Posts: 11	attachment URL structure request I have been trying to display some images in my email. I'm about three hours into this now and I'm dropping my problem here. I have switched to Rich Text Format for the email. I first started trying to embed images from photobucket using the URL structure, then the img URL address and I tried HTTP image insert structure. None of these worked. I have copied the images into the file area of my fast mail account so I can directly attach the files to the email but I can't figure out how to insert them into the email. Can anyone provide a basic URL structure for attached files to embed them into the message? Thank you for any assistance. Suntydt

5 Jan 2010, 01:43 PM	#2
n5bb Intergalactic Postmaster Join Date: May 2004 Location: Irving, Texas Posts: 8,929	Creating a link to an image file for use in an email Welcome to the EMD Forums, Suntydt! Here is what you need to do if you want to use images from your Fastmail file storage inserted into emails: On the Files screen: Make a subfolder using the Action tool Create subfolder feature (at the right of the Download zip button) to hold the images. Upload the images to this new subfolder. In the folder tree on the left, click on the parent folder of the subfolder you just created. The parent folder is the higher level folder which holds that subfolder. You will now see your subfolder in the list at the right (along with any other subfolders of that parent). In the Website column, click the Create link for the folder which contains the images. Create a website link for that folder. Do not password protect the link. Click the + Create website button to create the new link. If you click the Websites button at the upper right of the Files screen you will see all website links you have created. Now in the Files screen you can select (click) the folder containing the images, and in the list on the right you will see a list of the image files. Each image file will have a link in the Website column. Right-click one of these link items and choose Copy link location in your browser (if you are using Firefox -- if using Internet Explorer, you can click the link and copy the URL in your browser bar). Now Compose a new message and insert the image. Paste the link you just made for the image file, and then be sure to click the Reset size button (looks like a circular arrow chasing itself) to reset the size to the image size you are inserting. Bill

5 Jan 2010, 05:11 PM	#4
ChinaLamb The "e" in e-mail Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: a virtually impossible but finitely improbable position Posts: 2,320	I think the question is how to embed the image in the message to be sent with the message, not just linked to a website, is that right, Suntydt? I am not sure this is possible with the interface. You can have attachments, you can have images that are html linked, but I don't think you can embed those images to be sent as a part of the email - at least not from within the fastmail interface.... I may be wrong about that but I cannot find any information about embedding images in the fastmail wiki... Last edited by ChinaLamb : 5 Jan 2010 at 05:26 PM.

5 Jan 2010, 11:17 PM	#9
Suntydt Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Tennessee, USA Posts: 11	Clarifying Thanks everyone for the input. I haven't tried any of them yet but I will here shortly. ChinaLamb saw what I was asking about. I have recieved emails with attached images that were also displayed in the email. So I was trying to duplicate those types of emails. To give you an idea of what I am doing I have a list of ten things to do to be a good humanitarium. I am trying to put pictures to it. One of them is Be Patient and Wise, here is the picture I chose for it: Patience And Wisdom

6 Jan 2010, 07:24 AM	#12
jgoldberg Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Plano, Texas Posts: 88	Useful terminology for debugging Can you look at the raw source of the sent email. For the case where there is just a link you will find a URL. For the two cases where the image is also emailed you will find a message part that looks something like Code: -------= Part_XXXXX -- Content-Tranfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Type: image/jpeg (or gif or png or whatever) For images that are to be displayed within the message (as far as the viewer is concerned) you should also see Code: Content-disposition: inline While for those are presented at attachments it should be Code: Content-disposition: attachment It would help us see what is going on if you could report what actually gets sent. Is there an image "part" and if so, what is its content-disposition. Note that for messages where the image appears to be embedded in an HTML message, you should have a Content-id: instead of a Content-disposition.

5 Jan 2010, 05:24 PM	#5
Sherry Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: USA Posts: 8,687	I'm not sure when we were able to start doing that but I have embedded pictures in emails when practicing from the web. There's a choice to Insert/Edit Image button and when clicked you can paste in the url from your File Storage and it puts it right in the email. Sherry

5 Jan 2010, 05:59 PM	#7
Sherry Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: USA Posts: 8,687	I just sent an embedded image to my Yahoo account. It showed in the FM compose window before sending and in the Yahoo email. I clicked on the button for "Insert/Edit Image" (not Insert/Edit Link) in the top row of buttons when in the Rich Text Compose screen then pasted in the link (the link to the right of the image file in the column that says "Website"). I didn't fill in any of the info choices. That doesn't mean it wasn't a direct link in Yahoo but it didn't show up as an attachment that I could see??? Sherry

6 Jan 2010, 02:56 AM	#11
Sherry Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: USA Posts: 8,687	Hmm, I wonder if it has to do with the browser and security settings your using? Like it may require JavaScript (not Java) to be enabled? Also, in IE8 I will get a pop-up window asking something about if I'll allow something from a non-secure site (I log in FM using the Secure button. If I say yes then the picture shows up and it I say no I just get the same place-holder as your getting. Sherry

6 Jan 2010, 08:14 AM	#13
Sherry Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: USA Posts: 8,687	I don't see either of the following in the "sent" message. content-disposition. Content-id: instead of a Content-disposition. However, as a test, I renamed the file so Yahoo wouldn't be able to find it if it looks for it. The picture no longer showed in the Yahoo email so it does seem it is using a link to it instead of totally embedding it? (when renaming it back it did load the picture again) Sherry

6 Jan 2010, 08:57 AM	#14
ChinaLamb The "e" in e-mail Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: a virtually impossible but finitely improbable position Posts: 2,320	That you would get a message that secure and non secure content was being mixed on the same webpage proves that the images are offsite. The picture would be considered secure if it was embedded in the email, as it was only referenced, it is an external object, and you only got the placeholder. Renaming a picture would have no impact whatsoever on an embedded image - this only seals the case. To answer Suntydt, it does not appear to be possible to embed an image in an email through the fastmail interface. You can reference them to show up in an html message, but you cannot embed them so that the picture data is sent along with the file. /cl

12 Feb 2010, 09:37 AM	#15
hadaso The "e" in e-mail Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Holon, Israel. Posts: 4,856	Some suggestions Though there isn't currently a way to embed images in the compose screen, and it might be a lot of work to fully implement this capability, perhaps it is possible to put a link near each attachment in the compose sceen (with a cid: url) that can be copied and pasted to an <img> tag in the email (or to an <a> tag). Also perhaps a checkbox for "inline" that changed the "Content-disposition" header to "inline". (and for the long term and ability to impsrt and resize an image attachment through ckeditor's "insert image" dialog).