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23 Dec 2016, 10:53 PM | #1 |
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Free providers that hide IP address and not flagged as spam
What are some good providers that don't send IP address in the headers and are fairly privacy conscious. It doesn't have to be anything extreme; just basic security
Also that's not flagged as spam by AOL or other providers. Aol seems to bounce mail of some providers. Last edited by slow : 24 Dec 2016 at 02:05 AM. |
24 Dec 2016, 11:44 AM | #2 |
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Mail sent from many free email providers (especially small ones) will have a higher likelihood of being marked as spam by nearly all email service. Mail sent using email clients usually contains the IP address of the sender device. Mail sent using webmail sometimes does not include the sender device IP, but this depends on the email service. I think that Gmail is the only large free email provider who does not include the source device IP in webmail. Of course, Gmail tracks your IP, but I don't believe they place it openly in the headers (at least if you send using their web interface).
You will have to use a reputable provider who includes proper DKIM and SPF features to reliably send to major email providers. And if you send through a server not specified by the domain owner (such as using DMARC records) you may have trouble with delivery. In other words, if the message has an outlook.com From address it should be sent using Microsoft outlook/hotmail servers. You will not find anyone here who will assist you in sending unsolicited bulk messages. I'm not suggesting that you are, but any time someone is trying to hide their IP it can appear suspicious. Reputable email sending servers which do not place the sender IP address in the headers usually include an encrypted header which that service can use to determine the sender IP if the message is determined to be spam or otherwise illegal. Bill |
26 Dec 2016, 01:10 PM | #3 |
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1. Zoho
2. Gmail 3. EuMX |
29 Dec 2016, 12:59 AM | #4 | |
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I was using Yandex and experienced bounced messages from AOL. Failure of delivery and getting notifications 3-4 days later.
This is for normal personal, messages to one person. It could be that it's some AOL garbage (I don't know why people use it) or maybe the messages from that domain are interpreted as spam. I am not sure. My concern is mostly privacy. I have no interest in bulk messaging. google, microsoft, apple and similar would not make sense as they are not interested in user privacy, quite the opposite. Quote:
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If you meant that you received a failure of delivery report and follow-up messages for several days, that is an unusual case. Can you post the contents of the delivery failure messages, with the actual email addresses and other private information munged (changed)? Bill |
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29 Dec 2016, 06:48 PM | #7 | |
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The user is older and not tech savvy; using AOL for ever and unlikey to switch. I don't know if he'll be capable of adding to whitelist. I'll try.
The errors occur intermittently. Sometimes the message goes through. If it does not, there is no immediate notification of failure. About 3-4 days later a message of this kind appears This is the mail system at host yandex.ru... I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below. ... Status: 4.0.0 Diagnostic-Code: X-Yandex; delivery temporarily suspended: host mailin-04.mx.aol.com[152.163.0.68] refused to talk to me: 554- (RTR:BL) https://postmaster.aol.com/error-codes#554rtrbl 554 Connecting IP: 37.9.109.84 Quote:
Action: failed Status: 5.1.1 Remote-MTA: dns; mailin-04.mx.aol.com Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 5.1.1 <XXXXXXX@aol.com>: Recipient address rejected: aol.com |
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29 Dec 2016, 07:00 PM | #8 |
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aol whitelist
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https://www.thebalance.com/how-do-i-...in-aol-3515039 If the user is using webmail and responds to me, I'd automatically be in the white list. Is this correct? In the headers of his message, I see X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI |
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31 Dec 2016, 07:31 PM | #11 |
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So, taking all this into account. What are some free providers that would avoid these issues.
The idea is that my privacy is respected while at the same time I don't run into delivery problems. |
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1 Jan 2017, 07:34 AM | #13 |
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That is only true if you send using an email client. Google webmail does not insert your IP address in the headers. If you try this yourself, you will see that the IP addresses in the received message belong to internal and external Google addresses, not yours.
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