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5 Sep 2021, 07:15 AM | #16 |
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5 Sep 2021, 10:42 AM | #17 |
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5 Sep 2021, 01:52 PM | #18 |
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I doubt most of you read the article. The law applies to crimes in Australia and a warrant is required. Everyone who uses email for serious criminal activity on the internet put up their hand!
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5 Sep 2021, 04:23 PM | #19 |
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I did read the article. And I am not involved in any criminal activity. But I am not an expert in law and I am unable to understand what exactly are the implications of such law for me. And also I am not confortable with the fact that a law might open a door for corruption and abuse.
I am using the email for personal sensitive communications, such as with doctors, medical records, lab tests results, contracts with different companies, and such. I am not confortable with an email service that conduct their business under a law that might allow more access to my emails. I am a little paranoid when it comes to that, because I live in Romania where corruption is high. Protonmail lacks a lot of features that Fastmail offer, but it has end to end encryption, and this is enough for me. Last edited by alexu2007 : 5 Sep 2021 at 06:05 PM. |
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Also you can import / export using protonmail bridge https://protonmail.com/bridge/ and any email client. Just set up the email account that you currently use in your email client alongside with protonmail and you can copy / move emails between those two accounts. Or you can use protonmail bridge and this tool to backup or copy emails into your protonmail account: https://www.mailstore.com/en/products/mailstore-home/ |
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5 Sep 2021, 11:14 PM | #23 |
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As per "does this apply?" The question is, what happens when another country believes you have broken one of their laws? For instance, I have worked extensively in developing countries. I've seen MANY people accused of terrible crimes -- just to have an excuse for the government to get control of their businesses. And I need not discuss what's happening between a certain Asian country and Canada - where numerous people are being held, in retaliation to someone being held in Canada. There's plenty of news articles out there, these days, about "Exit Bans" and shadow courts - where American businesspeople and NGOs are being targeted. The crimes? Revealing state secrets. Anything, at any time, could be declared a state secret - and it has. I now know many people (business, even english teachers) who've found themselves charged with these crimes. Oh the stories I could tell. I'm not going to get into what happens in some of these smaller countries. Due process is NOT assured in the least. Don't even get me started on the Middle East.
If NO court order is required, then, well... it's the wild west of law enforcement. All it takes is a foreign country to pressure Australia, and threaten them with backlash -- and all they need to do is hand over data. With no court order required -- well, anything could happen. Unfortunately, we HAVE seen this happen plenty of times. In short --- the Australian law takes away all accountability. This is a BIG security issue. Anyone who says "Don't do anything illegal" hasn't played in the real world of international politics / journalism / business / travel. All they know is what they've read on some internet forum, or what they see on TikTok or Reddit. Re: Proton mail -- I'm well aware of Bridge -- and NO, that's not a solution, if you look into how it works. I'd have to download ALL my fastmail to an offline software, then use Bridge to upload that email to Proton... Nope... Not gonna do it. Every step increases the likelihood of lost data -- esp. when going through third party software. Also with Proton, their Scripting is severely limited. Sieve scripting is missing most of the commands, that are available in Fastmail. Most of my scripts will NOT work in Proton. Proton gives nice security at terrible expense of all the great features. Last edited by ChinaLamb : 5 Sep 2021 at 11:23 PM. |
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While I feel that abandoning FastMail on the basis of this article alone is an overreaction, I can understand the concern others have for the potential for abuse. |
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6 Sep 2021, 01:52 AM | #25 |
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After mature consideration, my own assessment is
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(I just started using proton bridge, it does have some probiems but they can be avoided by avoiding the INBOX folder, see my post here: http://www.emaildiscussions.com/show...8&postcount=57) |
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6 Sep 2021, 10:16 AM | #30 | |
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Best thing is if Fastmail has continuing communication about this.. Have they communicated in the past about previous Australian laws, and how it impacts customers? |
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