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19 Jul 2016, 12:44 AM | #16 |
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I hope this is voluntary and not mandatory. If mandatory I may have to look for another email provider and what a pain that will be.
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19 Jul 2016, 01:34 AM | #17 |
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My reading of this is that, if you just use a single password for access to your account, the only change you will see if that the URL of the login screen changes.
For people who only use email for casual correspondence, these changes are not especially important. However, where email contains potentially confidential communications, it becomes important to keep accounts secure. 2FA, and especially U2F, are useful tools in assisting to ensure this, as are app/device specific passwords. |
19 Jul 2016, 02:03 AM | #18 |
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19 Jul 2016, 02:08 AM | #19 |
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I'm currently only seeing the old "Alternative Logins" when will the Two-Factor options be available?
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19 Jul 2016, 02:34 AM | #20 |
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You could go to the link in post #1 and read it.
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19 Jul 2016, 02:46 AM | #21 |
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19 Jul 2016, 02:47 AM | #22 |
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Good question. From the blog:
Launching next Monday July 25. Current alternate logins terminate August 31. If you're currently using our "alternate logins" system, you will need to migrate to the new system sometime in the next month. We will be removing all old-style "alternate logins" on 31st August. Also, please note that if your alternate login has a second factor, you will now be asked for this after submitting your username and password, rather than entering it on the initial login page.https://blog.fastmail.com/2016/07/18...en-more-secure -- There'll be blog posts each day this week explaining the new login security features in detail. Last edited by pjwalsh : 19 Jul 2016 at 05:27 AM. |
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There is an extension for Mozilla, but no native support yet. I'm told that there are Mozilla engineers interested in it, but its currently quite difficult to do securely in Mozilla due to the lack of sandboxing. I'm sure they'll get there in time. Quote:
Of course we'll continue supporting TOTP and other methods for the forseeable future. Last edited by robn : 19 Jul 2016 at 05:40 AM. |
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19 Jul 2016, 05:38 AM | #24 |
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19 Jul 2016, 06:45 AM | #26 | |
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https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/fir...support-add-on -- You can test a U2F key here: https://demo.yubico.com/u2f Last edited by pjwalsh : 19 Jul 2016 at 07:07 AM. |
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19 Jul 2016, 07:02 AM | #27 |
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My understanding of the issue is that the browser has to connect to the USB system in order to communicate with the U2F device. If this isn't done carefully, then it might be possible for arbitrary Javascript code to talk to any of your USB devices - disks, network devices, etc.
This is easier for Chrome to protect against because it already has its sandboxing model where as a last line of defence, Javascript can't do anything outside of its running context (usually the current tab). Mozilla doesn't have this sandboxing model, mostly for legacy reasons, so the USB supports needs to be implemented very carefully. It can't afford to be wrong as there isn't that last line of defence. The (long) dev discussion is here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1065729. Back to your original question about the extension. I don't know anything about it really, and I'm not a Mozilla user, so I can't really say anything about its security characteristics. If its implemented the way that seems obvuous to me (a secondary task using libu2f-host to communicate with the U2F device) then it's probably not too bad and I would probably use it. Ultimately though you don't really have much guarantee about anything unless you're willing to go to a lot of effort. Chrome could be broken for all I know. I trust my browser because the alternative is more effort than its worth. You know your own security needs, so you'll need to make the best choice for yourself. |
19 Jul 2016, 09:43 AM | #28 |
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19 Jul 2016, 08:01 PM | #29 |
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2FA via SMS to Two different cell phones
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19 Jul 2016, 09:14 PM | #30 |
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Has anyone had notification from Fastmail of the new features in their Fastmail inbox?
I've had nothing yet. |