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Old 4 Apr 2020, 05:07 PM   #16
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Thank you Jeff It is beautiful!!!!

Except I forgot ya cant change your password in your email with SM but its fast and goregous!!!!!!! (I disabled using scripts in my acct and its even faster)
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Old 4 Apr 2020, 05:53 PM   #17
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Thank you Jeff It is beautiful!!!!

Except I forgot ya cant change your password in your email with SM but its fast and goregous!!!!!!! (I disabled using scripts in my acct and its even faster)
Please change passwd in default webmail, the Roundcube one.
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Old 4 Apr 2020, 09:31 PM   #18
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Just curious, but how is deliverability for you with a .xyz TLD? I purchased one a couple of years ago and many of my emails ended up in spam folders. Here is one article on the problem: https://blog.f-secure.com/why-is-the...level-domains/
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Old 4 Apr 2020, 09:46 PM   #19
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Just curious, but how is deliverability for you with a .xyz TLD? I purchased one a couple of years ago and many of my emails ended up in spam folders. Here is one article on the problem: https://blog.f-secure.com/why-is-the...level-domains/
@TenFour, antispam is a group of complicated policy, not the single accident can influence the final result. for example, new domain can get a small bad score, greylist, RBL, sender reputation, SPF, DKIM, etc,all those could make message increase spam scores. But the total score would or would not trigger spam judgment, it depends.

I once worked as the antispam team leader in a large ESP, who has 400+ million users. antispam was very challenged job to me.
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Old 4 Apr 2020, 10:11 PM   #20
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I have worked a lot in email marketing so understand spam issues pretty well. My domain with a .xyz TLD should have been completely "clean," meaning it wasn't on any blacklists because it was brand new and unique, with no numbers or strange characters. It was short too. I set it up myself, and everything tested well using usual spam scores, etc. The only unique factor I could see was that it was a .xyz domain, and various major email systems like Google and Outlook just funneled those directly into spam or junk. Maybe the situation has changed recently, since this was a couple of years ago when .xyz was relatively new.
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Old 5 Apr 2020, 12:34 PM   #21
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I tested it and sent to my cyber-rights.net account and it didnt goto spam...... Ill try sending to safe-mail.net also.........


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When I sent to safe-mail.net it also appeard in inbox

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Old 5 Apr 2020, 11:39 PM   #22
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I tested it and sent to my cyber-rights.net account and it didnt goto spam......
Service providers aren't really the problem, it's the corporate servers run by individual BOFHs.
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Old 6 Apr 2020, 05:55 AM   #23
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it's the corporate servers run by individual BOFHs
Maybe, but I sent emails to friends and relatives using regular consumer-grade email accounts and they just weren't getting the messages when I tried using a .xyz domain. They weren't corporate email accounts.
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Old 7 Apr 2020, 11:53 PM   #24
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I meant that you can't tell it's OK just by looking at a few service providers.

Companies are conservative about what TLDs they use on outgoing mail, and their admins may not regard FPs on personal email to be important. This allows them to be more aggressive on less common TLDs, if they want to.
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