Say Goodbye To Google Wave

kaptitsky · 5 Aug 2010, 07:24 PM

http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/...ogle-wave.html

**Gankaku** · 5 Aug 2010, 07:36 PM

It didn't last very long, did it?

hajonez · 5 Aug 2010, 09:23 PM

Yes, I'm a little sorry to hear that it is going. I liked the concept but really didn't take the time to explore it properly. I think it's difficult to 'reinvent' the email paradigm because we're all so used to how email operates and have become quite good at working around email's limitations. As one of the articles I read stated, perhaps Wave was ahead of its time. The 'masses' certainly haven't taken to it, which is a shame.

- Henry

xmailer · 6 Aug 2010, 03:18 AM

Perhaps to state the obvious, it might be viewed as a "solution" for which there ultimately wasn't a "problem." I didn't spend much time exploring it either, I guess precisely because I had trouble identifying any important need that it appeared to fulfill not already adequately met by other, better-established, "solutions."

hadaso · 6 Aug 2010, 08:04 AM

The way it seems to me is that they claimed they were making a new communications protocol but what they did make available is only access for users to an interface for using an application running on their servers. Google Wave users could use it only to communicate with other Google Wave users. I don't think they never opened the Google Wave servers for federation with other Wave servers, so there was no point for most anyone else to host such a separate Wave server or to develop a Wave client (though it seems there were others developing Wave servers and clients).

Anyway it sort of seems like email before 1971: people using the same host could send messages to each other. Then then in 1971 Ray Tomlinson extended it and created a way for users on different hosts on a network to send messages to each other. AFAIK Google Wave never got to this stage: they created a new communications protocol, never connected their own host using this protocol to the network and then announced that it failed to attract users so it will be terminated.

It is still possible that they are killing their Google Wave service but are planning on integrating the Wave protocol in other products. The protocol is very promising. The web app they created as an interface is not that great. Killing the web app and the service can be a way to get rid of the higher level bits in the protocol and continue development on top of the lower level bit (the Wave federation protocol).

William9 · 8 Aug 2010, 11:17 AM

It is a very good albeit complicated collaboration platform for workgroups.

David · 8 Aug 2010, 12:53 PM

I knew it would be a dead duck the very day that it arrived - wish me luck as you 'wave' me goodby.

Donat · 12 Aug 2010, 07:07 PM

Some people "think that Google Wave should be saved":
http://www.savegooglewave.com/

sflorack · 17 Aug 2010, 11:34 PM

This is Google's way of saying "Not enough people used it, which affected the amount of data we can mine, so it's no longer cost effective to continue operating.." ala Google Notebook.

5 Aug 2010, 07:24 PM	#1
kaptitsky The "e" in e-mail Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 2,186	Say Goodbye To Google Wave http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/...ogle-wave.html

5 Aug 2010, 07:36 PM	#2
Gankaku Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 3,265	It didn't last very long, did it?

5 Aug 2010, 09:23 PM	#3
hajonez Cornerstone of the Community Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 727	Yes, I'm a little sorry to hear that it is going. I liked the concept but really didn't take the time to explore it properly. I think it's difficult to 'reinvent' the email paradigm because we're all so used to how email operates and have become quite good at working around email's limitations. As one of the articles I read stated, perhaps Wave was ahead of its time. The 'masses' certainly haven't taken to it, which is a shame. - Henry

6 Aug 2010, 03:18 AM	#4
xmailer Intergalactic Postmaster Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: USA Posts: 5,485	Perhaps to state the obvious, it might be viewed as a "solution" for which there ultimately wasn't a "problem." I didn't spend much time exploring it either, I guess precisely because I had trouble identifying any important need that it appeared to fulfill not already adequately met by other, better-established, "solutions."

6 Aug 2010, 08:04 AM	#5
hadaso The "e" in e-mail Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Holon, Israel. Posts: 4,856	The way it seems to me is that they claimed they were making a new communications protocol but what they did make available is only access for users to an interface for using an application running on their servers. Google Wave users could use it only to communicate with other Google Wave users. I don't think they never opened the Google Wave servers for federation with other Wave servers, so there was no point for most anyone else to host such a separate Wave server or to develop a Wave client (though it seems there were others developing Wave servers and clients). Anyway it sort of seems like email before 1971: people using the same host could send messages to each other. Then then in 1971 Ray Tomlinson extended it and created a way for users on different hosts on a network to send messages to each other. AFAIK Google Wave never got to this stage: they created a new communications protocol, never connected their own host using this protocol to the network and then announced that it failed to attract users so it will be terminated. It is still possible that they are killing their Google Wave service but are planning on integrating the Wave protocol in other products. The protocol is very promising. The web app they created as an interface is not that great. Killing the web app and the service can be a way to get rid of the higher level bits in the protocol and continue development on top of the lower level bit (the Wave federation protocol).

8 Aug 2010, 11:17 AM	#6
William9 The "e" in e-mail Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: San Francisco Posts: 2,281	It is a very good albeit complicated collaboration platform for workgroups.

8 Aug 2010, 12:53 PM	#7
David Ultimate Contributor Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Canada. Posts: 10,355	I knew it would be a dead duck the very day that it arrived - wish me luck as you 'wave' me goodby.

12 Aug 2010, 07:07 PM	#8
Donat Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 16	Some people "think that Google Wave should be saved": http://www.savegooglewave.com/

17 Aug 2010, 11:34 PM	#9
sflorack The "e" in e-mail Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,937	This is Google's way of saying "Not enough people used it, which affected the amount of data we can mine, so it's no longer cost effective to continue operating.." ala Google Notebook.