E-Mail Marketers Sue Antispammers

mammaduck · 25 Apr 2003, 01:29 AM

The title says it all.

http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,110400,00.asp

Hanneke

robert@fm · 25 Apr 2003, 03:56 AM

"A Boca Raton trade association" — that really says it all (Boca Rathole is the spam capital of the world)...

To my mind, if PC World had been honest the article title would be "Spammers sue antispammers"...

Killer · 25 Apr 2003, 11:10 AM

What do you think of this court case? I think the users have the right to block out stuffs and until the law say so company have the right to develop blocking softwares.

**psalzer** · 25 Apr 2003, 07:59 PM

Robert, I was going to say the same thing - Boca Raton, huh?
Reading through the article I see that lawsuits are not new to these organizations and that Spamcop was involved in one previously. I get livid with Spamcop for their tactics but it does seem to work. Ironic that the only lawsuits involved are from actual spammers.

Thinking about spam, this might be one case where big business eventually does something to stamp out this garbage. Big, legitimate businesses could probably do much better with direct and truly opt-in e-mail marketing if not for spammers. I know that I've had to set my filters so I don't see some of the legitimate marketing e-mails that I have agreed to because I do business with a company and am interested in their sales, specials, events or whatever. It's just not worth it to me to make special rules so that their mail goes to my inbox, and I'm sure I'm average in that regard.

elvey · 29 Apr 2003, 09:26 AM

The lawsuit is pathetic and will be thrown out. No laws were broken. The filer will be SLAPPed back. Some emergency injunction filing was already thrown out.

ARIN is making movements to stop spam; not sure they have the teeth or stomach for the job though.

The SpamAssassin version FastMail runs just isn't doing a very good job anymore, for me anyway.

FastMail landed in the SpamCop black list (SCBL) again a couple days ago, for 9 hours, and is pretty close to the threshold.

I'm surprised there wasn't more haranguing about it.

listed: Saturday, April 26, 2003 14:12:02 -0700
delisted: Saturday, April 26, 2003 23:13:02 -0700

25 Apr 2003, 01:29 AM	#1
mammaduck Cornerstone of the Community Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Netherlands Posts: 706	E-Mail Marketers Sue Antispammers The title says it all. http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,110400,00.asp Hanneke

29 Apr 2003, 09:26 AM	#5
elvey The "e" in e-mail Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: San Francisco Posts: 2,458	I think it's good news, in a way. The lawsuit is pathetic and will be thrown out. No laws were broken. The filer will be SLAPPed back. Some emergency injunction filing was already thrown out. ARIN is making movements to stop spam; not sure they have the teeth or stomach for the job though. The SpamAssassin version FastMail runs just isn't doing a very good job anymore, for me anyway. FastMail landed in the SpamCop black list (SCBL) again a couple days ago, for 9 hours, and is pretty close to the threshold. I'm surprised there wasn't more haranguing about it. listed: Saturday, April 26, 2003 14:12:02 -0700 delisted: Saturday, April 26, 2003 23:13:02 -0700

25 Apr 2003, 03:56 AM	#2
robert@fm The "e" in e-mail Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: London, UK Posts: 4,681	"A Boca Raton trade association" — that *really* says it all (Boca Rathole is the spam capital of the world)... To my mind, if PC World had been honest the article title would be "Spammers sue antispammers"...

25 Apr 2003, 11:10 AM	#3
Killer Intergalactic Postmaster Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Singapore Posts: 6,762 Representative of: Killer.kkk.sg	What do you think of this court case? I think the users have the right to block out stuffs and until the law say so company have the right to develop blocking softwares.

25 Apr 2003, 07:59 PM	#4
psalzer Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 2,654	Robert, I was going to say the same thing - Boca Raton, huh? Reading through the article I see that lawsuits are not new to these organizations and that Spamcop was involved in one previously. I get livid with Spamcop for their tactics but it does seem to work. Ironic that the only lawsuits involved are from actual spammers. Thinking about spam, this might be one case where big business eventually does something to stamp out this garbage. Big, legitimate businesses could probably do much better with direct and truly opt-in e-mail marketing if not for spammers. I know that I've had to set my filters so I don't see some of the legitimate marketing e-mails that I have agreed to because I do business with a company and am interested in their sales, specials, events or whatever. It's just not worth it to me to make special rules so that their mail goes to my inbox, and I'm sure I'm average in that regard.