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Old 19 Aug 2009, 03:01 AM   #61
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Now you're saying the don't offer IMAP
I don't see IMAP here for the Starter package (perhaps browser error, please confirm). If I go here or here, I don't get the same features (IMAP is added on the second link) yet it gives me the same price. Could you explain us why ?

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If you don't need them or use something much better wouldn't be a reason could it? You know it's like asking a person why have Satellite TV when their TV comes with Rabbit Ears Antenna.
Nope, I'm not asking you why you don't make a use of that feature, but only commenting your statement : "I seriously question why people use email as a file storage ya know" which implies that they should'nt use that file storage service at all (and not only for the reasons you listed).

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It's like you asking why people would buy and Audi when they could buy a Chevy.
Nope (again), I'm asking why people would buy a Chevy for the price of an Audi

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Old 19 Aug 2009, 03:34 AM   #62
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Nope (again), I'm asking why people would buy an Audi for the price of a Chevy
I think you mean, why would people buy a Chevy at the price of an Audi -- but then I'm clinically dyslexic.

I'm rather enjoying this discussion, however. It's difficult to compare justifications of email providers when we all have different needs. If my employer didn't provide reliable email or if I were self-employed, I could justify $120/year for email if my livelihood depended upon it. In my case, my $25 email account is for personal use and I'm willing to forgive the occasional downtime or a slower customer service response.

I was just interested in comparing feature sets (specifically FM to Luxsci) to see what $75+/year would get me.
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Old 19 Aug 2009, 03:49 AM   #63
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I don't see IMAP here for the Starter package (perhaps browser error, please confirm). If I go here or here, I don't get the same features (IMAP is added on the second link) yet it gives me the same price. Could you explain us why ?
Maybe because you're not looking at the right place?

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Individual Email @LuxSci.net

* Email address @luxsci.net
* Secure Modern WebMail
* POP and Secure POP
* IMAP and Secure IMAP
* SMTP and Secure SMTP
* Basic spam and virus filtering
* Special Offer: One WebAide license included free
* 2 Gigabytes disk space
* All standard features and support
* *To add more users or features, click on "Revise Order" on the next page once you have selected this package.

Price: $9.99/mo.


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Nope, I'm not asking you why you don't make a use of that feature, but only commenting your statement : "I seriously question why people use email as a file storage ya know" which implies that they should'nt use that file storage service at all (and not only for the reasons you listed).
Because I use something much better with a lot more room, you know unlimited? Along with the bandwidth restrictions and file size restrictions as imposed by Fastmail. For example their restrictions for the "Enhanced Account" (which I've had for years) is

Max File Size = 50 MB
Hourly Transfer = 250 MB
Monthly Transfer = 2 GB

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Nope (again), I'm asking why people would buy an Audi for the price of a Chevy
Like I said, I have/use both and can make a rational evaluation of the services offered from both.

If all you require is what Fastmail offers then stay with them, I have other needs which LuxSci offers and Fastmail doesn't. So don't you think that could be a reason?
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Old 19 Aug 2009, 03:54 AM   #64
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I think you mean, why would people buy a Chevy at the price of an Audi -- but then I'm clinically dyslexic.

I'm rather enjoying this discussion, however. It's difficult to compare justifications of email providers when we all have different needs. If my employer didn't provide reliable email or if I were self-employed, I could justify $120/year for email if my livelihood depended upon it. In my case, my $25 email account is for personal use and I'm willing to forgive the occasional downtime or a slower customer service response.

I was just interested in comparing feature sets (specifically FM to Luxsci) to see what $75+/year would get me.
Exactly, I run different domains and have them going through my account along with my personal account. The domains I run require the SLA LuxSci offers along with their MX Logic anti Spam since I have the admin email addy's published, Spam is virtually gone not to mention false positives the same.

So that more than justifies the cost of 1 pack of smokes per month ya know
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Old 19 Aug 2009, 05:39 AM   #65
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It all comes down to what you need, for me paying for the service I receive from LuxSci is worth what I would pay for 1 pack of smokes per month. It's like you asking why people would buy and Audi when they could buy a Chevy.
Hello Marcus: I would think that what you need is relative to performance (not to name or price) Currently I drive an MGB. Under the hood is has a simple four cylinder engine and for a gearbox it has a bulletproof manual transmission (with overdrive) - it still has plenty of oomph, much more than what is required in order to keep up with today’s traffic. In all honesty I will admit that it is not as speedy as a Porsche, or a BMW, or a Lamborghini; it is however easy and cheap to fix; it is named EuMX and (imo) is a better value than LuxSci
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Old 19 Aug 2009, 05:56 AM   #66
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it is named EuMX and (imo) is a better value than LuxSci
A quick, and slightly off-topic, query.... Some providers have pronounceable names (Yahoo, Lavabit, Fastmail, etc.), while some are partly or entirely abbreviations (GMX, Gmail (Gee-mail), Ymail (why-mail)).

When you are speaking to someone about your MGB email 'vehicle,' how do you refer to it ? Do you spell its name (e-u-m-x) ? Or do you 'pronounce' the name (YOO-mix ?) ?

I do the latter, but don't know if it's 'proper' or not.

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Old 19 Aug 2009, 06:04 AM   #67
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I think you mean, why would people buy a Chevy at the price of an Audi -- but then I'm clinically dyslexic.
Haha. Actually, before editing my message, I wrote exactly what you said (as it is more logical). But after reading a second time Marcus, I thought that Chevrolet was more prestigious than Audi in the other side of the Atlantic.

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Hello Marcus: I would think that what you need is relative to performance (not to name or price) Currently I drive an MGB. Under the hood is has a simple four cylinder engine and for a gearbox it has a bulletproof manual transmission (with overdrive) - it still has plenty of oomph, much more than what is required in order to keep up with today’s traffic. In all honesty I will admit that it is not as speedy as a Porsche, or a BMW, or a Lamborghini; it is however easy and cheap to fix; it is named EuMX and (imo) is a better value than LuxSci
Email at LuxSci : 119,88$ - Webhosting at Dreamhost : 107,4$ - Account at FastMail : 34,95$ - Email from EuMX : priceless - there are some things money can't buy - for everything else, there's MasterCard

(sorry, couldn't refrain myself after reading what you wrote, David, as I 100% agree with you)
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Old 19 Aug 2009, 06:09 AM   #68
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When you are speaking to someone about your MGB email 'vehicle,' how do you refer to it ? Do you spell its name (e-u-m-x) ? Or do you 'pronounce' the name (YOO-mix ?) ?

I do the latter, but don't know if it's 'proper' or not.

sd
It is usual to refer to an MGB by spelling (out loud) the letters MGB (spelling out its name) English is a very 'impure' language is it not - I do admire those who are capable of speaking more than one language though, having never ever having achieved this myself

edit: I spell out the letters EuMX as well... as it is common to abbreviate the European Union that way (I don't know if that is correct or not)

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Old 19 Aug 2009, 06:37 AM   #69
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Email at LuxSci : 119,88$ - Webhosting at Dreamhost : 107,4$ - Account at FastMail : 34,95$ - Email from EuMX : priceless - there are some things money can't buy - for everything else, there's MasterCard
Now that's killer...and absolutely true
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Old 19 Aug 2009, 06:45 AM   #70
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Hello Marcus: I would think that what you need is relative to performance (not to name or price) Currently I drive an MGB. Under the hood is has a simple four cylinder engine and for a gearbox it has a bulletproof manual transmission (with overdrive) - it still has plenty of oomph, much more than what is required in order to keep up with today’s traffic. In all honesty I will admit that it is not as speedy as a Porsche, or a BMW, or a Lamborghini; it is however easy and cheap to fix; it is named EuMX and (imo) is a better value than LuxSci
I've had friends who've had MGB's, sorry but I personally don't want to have to be constantly working on them nor have to pay for the rather expensive parts.

Again it all comes down to what fits your requirements and for my needs I require the SLA that LuxSci delivers. That to me is well worth the cost of 1 pack of smokes per month.
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Old 19 Aug 2009, 06:47 AM   #71
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First time I saw EUMX I thought EU was European Union.

M stood for Mail and X for eXtra good or eXcellent service?
Someone (most likely the owner) told us the meaning of EUMX some time ago a year or two? and I am embarrassed that I don't remember what he told us. Seems a friendly guy.

Thanks for making me laugh you guessing too how to pronounce things. *Big Friendly Smile*

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Old 19 Aug 2009, 06:54 AM   #72
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Haha. Actually, before editing my message, I wrote exactly what you said (as it is more logical). But after reading a second time Marcus, I thought that Chevrolet was more prestigious than Audi in the other side of the Atlantic.
Nope, not even close

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Email at LuxSci : 119,88$ - Webhosting at Dreamhost : 107,4$ - Account at FastMail : 34,95$ - Email from EuMX : priceless - there are some things money can't buy - for everything else, there's MasterCard

(sorry, couldn't refrain myself after reading what you wrote, David, as I 100% agree with you)
I see you excluding the discounts you get for paying yearly even though you're quoting the monthly price x12. Not to mention you're excluding the limitations imposed by Fastmail

It all depends on what you need them for, like I said the file size limitation of 50 MB per file and bandwidth of Fastmail caps is useful if you're only going to store a few pdf's or documents ya know.

If you need file/back up services I suggest searching around the web a bit. Amazon for one has some excellent options like their S3 storage.

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Old 19 Aug 2009, 06:59 AM   #73
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Hey guys,

I currently use FM as my primary email provider having all my accounts e.g. POP's domain email sent to FM. I then download the emails (always leaving a copy on my FM account) to my Outlook where I have the email stored locally, as well as on the ******* Exchange server. I use ******* for syncing my contracts and my calendar to Outlook and my mobile phone.

Would LuxSci be the right provider to manage all of this, meaning:

email via POP, IMAP, syncing my contracts and my calendar to Outlook and my mobile phone, managing all the emails from my domains (Virtual Domains), lots of aliases?

I hate having FM and ******* parallel. I would want to have ONE email provide where I can webmail, download the copies of the mail to Outlook and sync contract, email and calendar to Outlook and my mobile devices.Can LuxSci do all of this?
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Old 19 Aug 2009, 07:17 AM   #74
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Hey guys,

I currently use FM as my primary email provider having all my accounts e.g. POP's domain email sent to FM. I then download the emails (always leaving a copy on my FM account) to my Outlook where I have the email stored locally, as well as on the ******* Exchange server. I use ******* for syncing my contracts and my calendar to Outlook and my mobile phone.

Would LuxSci be the right provider to manage all of this, meaning:

email via POP, IMAP, syncing my contracts and my calendar to Outlook and my mobile phone, managing all the emails from my domains (Virtual Domains), lots of aliases?

I hate having FM and ******* parallel. I would want to have ONE email provide where I can webmail, download the copies of the mail to Outlook and sync contract, email and calendar to Outlook and my mobile devices.Can LuxSci do all of this?
I can't speak for Outlook for I don't use it but I sync my contacts via LDAP with LuxSci with Claws Mail. As for Calendar, I don't have the need for it but they do have WebDAV access. Which I know you can use with a number of mail clients.
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Old 19 Aug 2009, 08:55 AM   #75
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I've had friends who've had MGB's, sorry but I personally don't want to have to be constantly working on them nor have to pay for the rather expensive parts.
Parts can be very cheap, comparative to what you would pay for Lamborghini parts, nor did your friends pay the expense of hiring a mechanic. Your friends displayed good judgement imo. This is not to imply that you are wrong, if I were very very rich I would do like you. That said.... I would always miss working on my old MGB
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