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Old 13 May 2025, 09:31 AM   #1
jeffpan
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looking forward to the launch of products from two exciting email providers

I?m eagerly looking forward to the launch of products from two exciting email providers.

The first one is @x.com. Beyond its super cool domain name, this email service is tightly integrated with Twitter. Could we eventually read and compose tweets directly via email? With Grok AI in the mix, it?s easy to imagine composing emails or replying to tweets becoming incredibly seamless in the future.

The second one is @thundermail.com. While the domain is a bit longer, it?s developed by the team behind Thunderbird. This opens up the potential for seamless integration with Thunderbird, including shared email accounts, contacts, cloud storage, and calendars.

Beyond that, I?m also hoping to see an iOS client for Thunderbird in the future. Imagine Thunderbird establishing its own cloud account ecosystem, much like Apple?s iCloud Mail. With Apple, Microsoft, Google, and now Thunderbird each offering their own cloud ecosystems, Thunderbird?s focus on open-source solutions could make it a favorite among power users.
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Old 13 May 2025, 04:33 PM   #2
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@x.com
The system will be overburdened on its first day of operation. Aside from the short domain name, there is nothing interesting. You saw what he did on Twitter. I believe the email service is no exception.

The email market is saturated, and there have been no significant improvements in recent years.

The game is in the hands of the big players.
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Old 13 May 2025, 06:26 PM   #3
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x.com: Meh.

thundermail.com: I like and regularly use Thunderbird, so I will check this out.

AI: I know when posts have been generated using AI, which I consider to be detrimental to this forum.
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Old 13 May 2025, 08:32 PM   #4
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Weird post. What makes these two exciting before they've even launched? Will reserve judgment on Thunder mail until we see what it's like, and won't have anything to do with a Musk project. The guy who has wrecked Twitter, Tesla, and much of our federal government.
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Old 13 May 2025, 10:13 PM   #5
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x.com will probably be as yucky as his other thing he destroyed
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Old 14 May 2025, 03:12 AM   #6
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Short domains are the only thing to look forward to.
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Old 14 May 2025, 08:52 AM   #7
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I agree that the short @x.com domain is tempting.

However, the service it is linked to has become very controversial in recent times, so I don't know if it is wised to use such email service instead of a more neutral one.




Besides, are you sure @x.com email addresses will become available?
In an earlier topic it was said the domain would be @xmail.com instead of @x.com



If email services (regardless which ones) would include AI technology to write emails, I'd either want the option to disactivate that option, or else stay away from the service alltogether. I find texts created by AI missing any kind of human emotion. I'd rather have a poorly phrased but well-intended message in my email than one created by a machine. I mean, we never sent letters by post created with AI, did we? The fact it's been created/written by a human makes it more valuable, even if it means it's more prone to spelling errors or linguistic errors.

I've never used AI so far (at least, not that I know of) and I'm not having any plans to start using it. Human emotions cannot be replaced by machines.
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Old 14 May 2025, 09:47 PM   #8
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I've never used AI so far (at least, not that I know of) and I'm not having any plans to start using it.
When I do a Google search for something, the hits come back prefaced by an empty screen area, which is filled in a few seconds later, with a brief summary of the topic (& more detail if you click on something). I /think/ it's generated on the fly by some sort of AI.


On Amazon, there is something similar just above user reviews, summarising them. (I dislike it as there's no way to tell - short of reading lots of reviews, which I'd do anyway - if the summary is skewed to the vendor's or Amazon's benefit.)


I do not plan to use intentionally an AI either - I've seen enough generated garbage (on tech mail lists) not to trust it, & even if I did trust genned code I wish to learn how things work, not get a possibly-flawed solution just handed to me. But what I really don't understand is how, for a real-world problem, anyone can explain to an automated system what a program is meant to do, with all the ins+outs. It seems to me that that needs a program-specification, for which natural language is often not precise enough (especially if the person providing it doesn't think in a structured way).

I had the same issue when introduced (40+ years ago) to the formal mathematical basis of proving a computer program 'correct'. The multiple pages of maths 'proving' a single statement would work were complex & who was going to prove /them/ correct, or that they exactly corresponded to the intended meaning of the program?

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Old 15 May 2025, 04:35 AM   #9
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Could we eventually read and compose tweets directly via email? With Grok AI in the mix, it?s easy to imagine composing emails or replying to tweets becoming incredibly seamless in the future.
If that did come to be, I doubt it would be for long. Facebook had such a thing where you could create a new post, even reply to another post, via email. I remember though, about 15 years ago, that the feature was no longer available. I think that had to do at least somewhat due to the fact that the ads that companies paid fb to show couldn't be shown this way. You basically could interact with others in the fb world, but you didn't have to go there.
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Old 16 May 2025, 09:27 PM   #10
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Thundermail is what I'm interested in but I'm an iphone user. Waiting on their mobile app to come out first.
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