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Old 9 Jun 2021, 07:44 PM   #31
TenFour
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The reveal that the FBI tricked a bunch of gangsters into using a fake encrypted app called ANOM makes you wonder what other fake services are out there to entice criminals to share their secrets while thinking they are hiding them. https://www.reuters.com/breakingview...ue-2021-06-09/
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Old 9 Jun 2021, 10:08 PM   #32
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Heard about that FBI stunt.

Will they ever release the GrauciFauci emails to the public?

Protonmail has done some major changes:
https://protonmail.com

Was glad to see Vivaldi recommend Fastmail with their recent version 4:

"The eagerly-awaited beta release of Vivaldi Mail, Vivaldi Feed Reader and Vivaldi Calendar are now here on your desktop. While you can choose to use Vivaldi Mail Beta with your existing mail and calendar services, you can also set up an account on vivaldi.net or add a trusted third-party service, such as Fastmail.

Truly, with the new Vivaldi, we’re making it easier for you to break away from the locked ecosystems of the huge corporations and creepy, surveillance-driven practices.

Vivaldi 4.0 is available on Windows, Mac and Linux computers, mobiles and tablets running Android 5 or higher, and on up-to-date Chromebooks. Get it now."

https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-4-0/

Vivaldi Mail may not be anywhere near ProtonMail, but must be 99.9% better than GMail or Outlook!
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Old 10 Jul 2021, 08:02 AM   #33
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Protonmail is silently discarding emails. Someone sent me an email with some important documents and it never arrived at protonmail. I moved my domain from protonmail to google workspace and the email arrived in a few hours, the server retried until my domain resoved on google MXes.

It happened before, first time I thought that it was just a server glitch. But now I cannot use the protonmail service anymore, silently discarding emails is not a good thing. That particular email was not spam and google does not marked it as spam, so I don't know why protonmail did not accept it.
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Old 11 Jul 2021, 03:00 AM   #34
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Protonmail is silently discarding emails. Someone sent me an email with some important documents and it never arrived at protonmail.
If it "never arrived" then they didn't discard it.

They might have rejected it at an SMTP level (ie when the sending server offered it to their server), but you'll only know that if you can get the sender to ask their mail provider for the outgoing logs showing it being rejected.

You should ask the sender to do that because they should be concerned if their service is not configured properly (eg not doing sufficent retries). Some mail services don't do any retries, or in some circumstances won't do them.

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I moved my domain from protonmail to google workspace and the email arrived in a few hours, the server retried until my domain resoved on google MXes.
Good!


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It happened before ... so I don't know why protonmail did not accept it.
The sender has to ask the ending system for its logs. If the sender isn't using a decent provider with tech support willing to dig out the logs then you'll never know.

This is the sort of thing that makes me willing to pay for email services; I /expect/ a provider to be willing to find out why things have not worked.
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