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23 Apr 2024, 12:22 PM | #1 | |||
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Are all forwarding services now useless?
I've been a member of a professional organization (ACM - Association of Computing Machinery) that supports a forwarding service. I've been using that forwarding service for almost 30 years. I simply tell the service to relay all incoming email sent to my forwarding service to my FM account and the From is the forwarding service address. There's been no need for me to create a personal domain because that service was always there no matter which email service I happened to use. After all these years my forwarding service's address is my public known address (spammed too but I handle that).
Recently (I think in the last couple of months but not exactly sure of the timing) all email I send to other recipients using my forwarding service address as the From address are being filtered into the recipient's spam (or junk) folder. It never used to be that way. I sent a ticket to Fastmail. They theorize... Quote:
It seems to me that these tightened rules makes using a forwarding service next to useless unless all you want is for receive only. Effectively that's what I now see. FastMail also included in their reply the following: Quote:
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Of course the ACM email address is always going to be good for mail forwarded to me (I think all my rules and Sieve code override those ending up in spam - didn't check). But it's going to be a little confusing for mail I send when the From will have a different email address than the one I've been using for all these years. Recipient can't just reply. At least I can do this on the fly as they occur. Maybe it is time for getting a personal domain. Of course I assume all the "good" email addresses are already taken. |
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Found this: https://myacm.acm.org/dashboard.cfm?svc=mailroute Last edited by Avion : 23 Apr 2024 at 07:20 PM. Reason: Found this: |
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23 Apr 2024, 07:37 PM | #3 |
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Several email forwarding services offer SMTP: Forwardemail, SimpleLogin, and even POBox.com, Fastmail's own service. Others too.
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23 Apr 2024, 10:45 PM | #4 |
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24 Apr 2024, 07:25 AM | #7 | |
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MailRoute's "SMTP Auth Relay" documentation specifies the inbound/outbound server settings. This this is just what I need to keep the recipients thinking my messages are spam. Need to figure out how to set this up in my FM account ("My Email Addresses" setting I think). This looks promising so again thanks. Stay tuned... |
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24 Apr 2024, 01:28 PM | #8 |
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Well using MailRoute's "SMTP Auth Relay" worked!
Next is to get my Thunderbird email client to work with this change. No rush for that. At least I now have a channel that works again with my ACM address. Update the next day: Turns out no changes need to be made to the client. I think the general sequence of events are that Thunderbird sends using the FM SMTP server as it always has. FM server sees the from address is my ACM email address defined in FM "My email addresses" settings which says send using the MailRoute SMTP server specified for that email address instead. At least I think that's generally how it goes. Whatever. It just works. Last edited by xyzzy : 26 Apr 2024 at 01:58 PM. |
24 Apr 2024, 09:25 PM | #9 |
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A quick look at the DNS for acm.org shows this TXT RR for SPF
"v=spf1 include:_spf.acm_org._d.easydmarc.pro ~all" this for DMARC "v=DMARC1;p=reject;rua=mailto:9adb8cf49b@rua.easydmarc.us;ruf=mailto:9adb8cf49b@ruf.easydmarc.us;fo=1" easydmarc.pro sound like a service for email authentication anyhow that p=reject means that email that doesn't pass SPF and DKIM is likely to be rejected or quarantined (treated as spam) by receivers. Maybe your acm.org service is misconfigured (perhaps due to easydmarc) and needs to keep up with the new reality of the email landscape where companies like Google and Yahoo! have recently become stricter. The above depends on what the domain name of the forwarded mail is. If it's not acm.org then it probably doesn't apply. Reminds me of ARC (RFC 8617) which is designed for forwarding issues but takes time to get up to speed due to relying on reputation. Last edited by nudge : 24 Apr 2024 at 10:19 PM. |