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Old 12 Feb 2025, 10:34 PM   #1
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What are some trusted non-business email services?

According to emd, these electronic services are:
disroot.org
A/I
riseup.net
so36.net
systemli.org
What else?
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Old 12 Feb 2025, 10:38 PM   #2
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I remember another one, @free.de
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Old 13 Feb 2025, 12:20 AM   #3
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What do you mean by trusted? I've tried a lot of email services and nothing is as reliable as Gmail. Worldwide Gmail and Outlook/Microsoft are the two most used email providers. Apparently a lot of people trust them.
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Old 13 Feb 2025, 02:49 AM   #4
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According to emd, these electronic services are:
disroot.org
A/I
riseup.net
so36.net
systemli.org
What else?

None of them is trusted or reliable! Thrusted services are those who backed up by big companies (Google, Microsoft) or well established paid services like fastmail, runbox or protonmail.

In addition to this, all these services are some kind of "radical political activism". Not only their reliability is questionable because of this (potential hacking attacks or government actions), but the use of their emails could be problematic. For example, you can't add this email address to your resume.

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Old 13 Feb 2025, 09:18 PM   #5
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None of them is trusted or reliable! Thrusted services are those who backed up by big companies (Google, Microsoft) or well established paid services like fastmail, runbox or protonmail.
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Big shouldn't mean trusted:

https://www.dhs.gov/archive/news/202...ncident-summer
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Old 13 Feb 2025, 09:27 PM   #6
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I remember another one, @free.de
I have a native email at free.fr
which is quite solid.
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Old 13 Feb 2025, 11:43 PM   #7
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None of them is trusted or reliable! Thrusted services are those who backed up by big companies (Google, Microsoft) or well established paid services like fastmail, runbox or protonmail.

In addition to this, all these services are some kind of "radical political activism". Not only their reliability is questionable because of this (potential hacking attacks or government actions), but the use of their emails could be problematic. For example, you can't add this email address to your resume.
Well,gmail is a commercial company.
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Old 13 Feb 2025, 11:44 PM   #8
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I have a native email at free.fr
which is quite solid.
Can't register!
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Old 14 Feb 2025, 11:37 PM   #9
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According to emd, these electronic services are:
disroot.org
A/I
riseup.net
so36.net
systemli.org
What else?
what qualifies these providers (all from the political extreme left) as trustworthy? please disclose the test criteria.
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Old 14 Feb 2025, 11:38 PM   #10
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None of them is trusted or reliable! Thrusted services are those who backed up by big companies (Google, Microsoft) or well established paid services like fastmail, runbox or protonmail.

In addition to this, all these services are some kind of "radical political activism". Not only their reliability is questionable because of this (potential hacking attacks or government actions), but the use of their emails could be problematic. For example, you can't add this email address to your resume.
absolut full ack!
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Old 16 Feb 2025, 01:25 AM   #11
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None of them is trusted or reliable! Thrusted services are those who backed up by big companies (Google, Microsoft) or well established paid services like fastmail, runbox or protonmail.

In addition to this, all these services are some kind of "radical political activism". Not only their reliability is questionable because of this (potential hacking attacks or government actions), but the use of their emails could be problematic. For example, you can't add this email address to your resume.
Would you include Mailfence and Tutanota/Tuta amongst the trustworthy services too? I see you mentioned Protonmail, while Mailfence and Tuta are also known for their focus on privacy.

The problem with services such as RiseUp etc is dual, as you say. You can indeed not use such address on your resume or so (as far as the average employer would know the roots of these services), but it could still be used as an address for private communication with friends and family in theory. In practise however, I'd be concerned on attacks against these services, and thus the services being discontinued or at least not reliable.

Enough choice of email services that do not have any specific ideology and that are reliable.


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That is very true, however Gmail does have a very good reputation as being very reliable (because/despite being "big tech"). It has a very good reputation, even on this forum many people seem to trust Gmail a lot. And their options for 2FA seem to be very good.
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Old 16 Feb 2025, 01:30 AM   #12
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To the opening poster: do you mean a trusted email service for non-business purposes? That could be really any trustworthy service.

Or do you mean a trusted email service by a provider that you don't consider "big business"?
In that case you'd probably exclude services by Google, Yahoo, Microsoft, GMX, Zoho, Mail.com etc as all those are big companies. However, I would say that every provider is "business" to some extent. Without a profitable model, no provider would remain in operation.

There are however some providers that get their income mostly from paid accounts, but who do offer more limited accounts to free users: Mailfence, Tutanota and Protonmail all do that.
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Old 16 Feb 2025, 03:32 PM   #13
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is eumx.net matching OP's requirement?
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Old 16 Feb 2025, 08:53 PM   #14
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I would check out Purelymail too. Very basic and simple, and one of the cheapest around for domain email. But "trusted" is a term that could mean different things. Personally, I think that either it means too big to fail (like Google or Outlook) or email at your own domain so you could move if/when the company does fail. Even for domain email providers I would look for a company with a longer track record and known enough to have a subReddit or be well covered on this forum, like Fastmail or Polarismail.
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Old 17 Feb 2025, 03:21 AM   #15
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I would check out Purelymail too. Very basic and simple, and one of the cheapest around for domain email. But "trusted" is a term that could mean different things. Personally, I think that either it means too big to fail (like Google or Outlook) or email at your own domain so you could move if/when the company does fail. Even for domain email providers I would look for a company with a longer track record and known enough to have a subReddit or be well covered on this forum, like Fastmail or Polarismail.
I'll ask here because members are email enthusiasts and some members may be experts.

Some guidance about "your own domain"?

(edit: maybe my question should be a new topic - I don't know.)
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