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7 Sep 2012, 11:36 PM | #1 |
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Will yahoo mail become another gmail?
Marissa Mayer is the CEO of Yahoo now and once was Gmail's product manager IIRC.
Will yahoo mail become another gmail? I hate now time's yahoo mail, it's tumid, experience worse. |
8 Sep 2012, 03:09 AM | #2 |
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why not ask her on twitter.
https://twitter.com/marissamayer |
8 Sep 2012, 05:27 PM | #3 |
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Would she not only reveal what is already announced?
Why would she share secrets before they are official? jeffpan it is not easy to know. They must have some economic reason to hire her. She is most likely has the instruction to make them more profitable. So you could be right that she will use what she learned from within Google on how to make money for Yahoo too. What exactly that means as changes in how Yahoo works? I am sorry I have no clue on it. But compare with FaceBook and Gmail having stricter control over that one are true about ones identity so that maybe is what the Advertisers that pay them wants to be changed for to trust that their ads really reach real persons and not bots? That the clicks on the ads are real clicks and not a bot going round and clicking on them So maybe they would ask for our mobile phone number too? I only wild guess. |
8 Sep 2012, 09:34 PM | #4 |
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What is the reason why she left her previous employer? Maybe she was unhappy with the policies and therefor wanted to continue her career in the same field but with a company whose terms and ethics were closer to her personal ethics?
At this point, and until an official statement comes in, all assumptions are just wild guesses. I don't think Yahoo users should start panicking, and await an official announcement. Maybe, other than the names in the company management team, nothing concrete will change. It's all guessing now. If there would be any changes noticeable for the users, an official statement should normally follow. |
9 Sep 2012, 12:10 AM | #5 |
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Personally, I would welcome some changes to Yahoo! mail, some more Gmail-like. For example, Yahoo!'s ads are obnoxious, in my opinion, and really detract from the users experience. I think that Gmail is the most functional, fastest service out there. It's a pleasure to use.
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9 Sep 2012, 10:21 AM | #6 |
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If you do not like ads, there's always the paid option (which I use)
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9 Sep 2012, 08:37 PM | #7 |
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13 Sep 2012, 01:52 AM | #8 | |
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I must say I like Gmail interface-wise, I like the dialogue/conversation based email chains, the fast search engine, the log of previous log ins (although they should keep those data shown no matter how long ago the last session), the long inactivity limit and high storage space (although Outlook.com seems to have the same terms more or less now) ... So I am not entirely anti Gmail. There is however the unsettling idea that there is data mining going on, and I don't actually like the idea of a company using my data for commercial reasons. I can understand police doing some data mining in some circumstances (not just randomly on any person!) but the type of data mining Google does is not exactly giving peace of mind. Other than that though; purely in terms of easy to use and neat interface, it is a good service indeed (if you try to forget the data mining for just a moment ...) I am unsure of what Yahoo does for data mining and if the change of board members would have any impact on their service. I would guess not, because someone with a history of working for Google is likely to know the stuff their users disliked. And thus unlikely to import those features in her new corporation? |
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13 Sep 2012, 04:21 AM | #9 |
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It's my understanding that most companies try to benefit from data and advertizing when it comes to free services like email. I think Google has been able to excel in that area. There is a difference between data and privacy.
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13 Sep 2012, 05:52 AM | #10 |
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The moment you out the data about someone, privacy is gone. The difference is only as long as the collected data don't leak or aren't published.
I am looking for a new email provider and I take my time to ask around for opinions to make the best possible choice, one doesn't constantly change address after all. But I will make the change and it will be a paid service if necessary to get rid of the concerns regarding data mining for commercial purposes. Maybe "concerns" sounds like I got something to hide, which is not the case. However, it goes against my ethics that the type of data collected is used as a commercial good. Then I rather pay a provider so that he doesn't have to please advertisers to keep his service stable and running. Also, I consider support very important. Gmail only has support for paid users and they're far from cheap. That is another reason why I would opt for paid service unless there is a support team available for the free alternative (which exists only with a minority of services, eg Safe Mail, EUMX, one time I even got a response from Hotmail...) |
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Yes, and the question would be whether Google still mines data from the premium users. I haven't bothered reading Google's policies on this regard, but from the standard comparisons of Google Apps' free and premium version, there's no obvious statement to the effect that paying users' data is not mined by the big "G." So how much privacy is that $50/yr buying for GA users ?
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1. At least I can see how much data they have taken through DASHBOARD. 2. Till now, Google hasn't got hacked by third party unlike Yahoo etc. Though there is no guaranty about 'how long'. |
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I do hope she forces the team to clear out all the bugs. Yahoo! has some cool features. The built-in search is very nice and powerful for people who do not necessarily know how to perform a boolean query. The built-in photo app is nice as well Quote:
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4 Oct 2012, 06:54 AM | #14 |
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In my opinion, Yahoo! free email is caught in a time warp. Intrusive advertising, mediocre performance of email functions and sluggishness are some of its characteristics. The social features seem to me that they were just tacked on in an attempt to be contemporary. I find them of minimal or no usefulness. Compared to Gmail or the beautiful new Outlook.com, it's behind times. Yahoo! would have to devote more resources and years to catch up to Gmail, which I consider the benchmark in functionality and speed. Yahoo! customers would welcome such improvements.
I actually prefer targeted ads. I would rather see an add for a good price on a PC (which I'm interested in) than an add for Pampers. |
5 Oct 2012, 01:54 AM | #15 |
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I'm having a hard time understanding why people keep saying Gmail is super fast.
It's been utterly sluggish for me for a long time. It takes forever to load. and I find it bloated Yahoo! Mail is quite buggy indeed but it's loading very fast for me. And I have the same amount of emails in both, they're all in sync |