Two notifications for the same post on this forum

[chrisjj]

(Probably not actually Fastmail specific, but we'll see.)

For one post on this forum, I have just received two notifications, differing only in (most) header fields down to:

X-ME-VSScore: 300
X-ME-VSCategory: phishing
X-ME-CSA: none
X-ME-Received: <xmx:IRQoZ4U79H8DbKuSWloPS78NFw2FbY3Trvzh6bLmm71UP_SH5uToyg>
Received-SPF: none
(emaildiscussions.com: No applicable sender policy available)
receiver=phl-mx-06.messagingengine.com;
identity=mailfrom;
envelope-from="forumadmin@emaildiscussions.com";
helo=brown.aspen.relay.mailchannels.net;
client-ip=23.83.221.23
Received: from brown.aspen.relay.mailchannels.net (brown.aspen.relay.mailchannels.net [23.83.221.23])
(using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)
key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256)
(No client certificate requested)
by phl-mx-06.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 06750292006F
for <XXX@chrisjj.com>; Sun, 3 Nov 2024 19:24:00 -0500 (EST)

(and FM desktop web shows "Unsubscribe" https://i.imgur.com/w18ww1i.png)

v.

X-ME-VSScore: 30
X-ME-VSCategory: community:forum-email
X-ME-CSA: none
X-ME-Received: <xmx:IxQoZ2uDQ8ZF4Qt_wSVeKvfv7d3e2PkR8e2g6GQE9iXAgzKHX6HAMw>
Received-SPF: none
(emaildiscussions.com: No applicable sender policy available)
receiver=phl-mx-03.messagingengine.com;
identity=mailfrom;
envelope-from="forumadmin@emaildiscussions.com";
helo=bat.oak.relay.mailchannels.net;
client-ip=23.83.215.13
Received: from bat.oak.relay.mailchannels.net (bat.oak.relay.mailchannels.net [23.83.215.13])
(using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)
key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256)
(No client certificate requested)
by phl-mx-03.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 51D5D10000AB
for <XXX@chrisjj.com>; Sun, 3 Nov 2024 19:24:03 -0500 (EST)

(and FM desktop web shows NO "Unsubscribe" https://i.imgur.com/JiPLVC8.png)

below which, no difference.

EDIT: Notifications said:

> n5bb has just replied to a thread you have subscribed to entitled - Anyone know where to find this "Email headers" option? - in the Google Gmail Forum forum of EmailDiscussions.com.

> This thread is located at:
> http://www.emaildiscussions.com/show...6&goto=newpost

Any idea why two? Other posts got just one.

EDIT: personal address user part changed to XXX.

[Bamb0]

Hmmm do you get notified EVERYTIME someone replys?? (If so it might explain 2)

[chrisjj]

Yes I do. But this does not explain two notifications for the same reply. Or why one is flagged as "phishing".

[Bamb0]

Hmmmmm no it certainly doesnt.........

Why would it say its phishing I wonder??

[chrisjj]

And who is actually saying that? Something called "X-ME-VS" apparently, which is maybe software run by ME, Messaging Engine, a.k.a. Fastmail.

[Terry]

is it your sieve script ?

[chrisjj]

Originally Posted by Terry

is it your sieve script ?

If I understand correctly, under FM as of a few years ago, there's no such thing - at least visible/controllable by me.

The nearest I get is a Sieve condition and some GUI actions: https://i.imgur.com/5JOxEkX.png

So I think the answer is No.

Thanks.

[n5bb]

Originally Posted by chrisjj

If I understand correctly, under FM as of a few years ago, there's no such thing - at least visible/controllable by me.
The nearest I get is a Sieve condition and some GUI actions:...

The user-edited custom Sieve feature was never removed. Go to your Rules screen and scroll down to the very bottom to create custom Sieve (integrated with the grey blocks created by the main Rules screen). You can use both “regular” Rules and custom Sieve simultaneously.

Your rule seems to send a copy to a personal domain address. Are both of the messages received directly from <forumadmin@emaildiscussions.com> to your Fastmail account? Examine these headers:

• X-Mail-from:
• X-Spam-source:

If so, that sounds like something going on at EMD. But if they arrived from different sources, it’s possible that you have some type of loop set up by the forwarding rule. Could it be forwarding to your domain, which forwards to Gmail, which forwards to Fastmail?

Did both of those messages appear in the same folder/label? Fastmail has a feature which you can enable which in most cases prevents multiple copies of a message from appearing in the same folder/label. This relies on the Message-Id header. Go to Advanced Preferences for the folder or label where both messages appeared and scroll to the bottom for the Discard duplicate messages feature. Note that this is a feature which can be enabled or disabled for each folder/label.

Bill

[CyberSmurf]

Which post?

[CyberSmurf]

btw, you probably should mung your email address in your opening post.

[chrisjj]

Thanks. Done.

[chrisjj]

Originally Posted by CyberSmurf

Which post?

http://www.emaildiscussions.com/show...6&goto=newpost

EDIT: That's from the notifications:

> n5bb has just replied to a thread you have subscribed to entitled - Anyone know where to find this "Email headers" option? - in the Google Gmail Forum forum of EmailDiscussions.com.
>
> This thread is located at:
> http://www.emaildiscussions.com/show...6&goto=newpost

but the correct answer to your question "Which post" is: I don't know, because the notification does not say. However I recall it was this one http://www.emaildiscussions.com/showpost.php?p=637800 and I don't see any other possible match currently.


It was this year, but Fastmail Search

header:"X-ME-VSCategory: phishing" after:2024-01-01

fails to find it.

EDIT: It said "No matches found" But when I repeat that search now, again on FM desktop web, it IS found. Oh dear! Also found are many others inc. from Facebook: https://i.imgur.com/Yv5Dm4V.png

EDIT: Search

"http://www.emaildiscussions.com/showthread.php?t=80716&goto=newpost"

finds both.

I have a mail rule to send a copy to Gmail but in Gmail, Search

"http://www.emaildiscussions.com/showthread.php?t=80716&goto=newpost"

find only one - the "phishing" version, surprisingly. I assume FM's send a copy failed on the other,

[chrisjj]

Originally Posted by n5bb

The user-edited custom Sieve feature was never removed. Go to your Rules screen and scroll down to the very bottom to create custom Sieve (integrated with the grey blocks created by the main Rules screen).

Got it. Thanks for the correction.

Both say

X-Mail-from: forumadmin@emaildiscussions.com

My Gmail does not forward to Fastmail.

Those messages appeared in the same folder/label. Plain Inbox.

Discard Duplicates is off. A must here, since it suffers from false positives due to message ID reuse by e.g. Yahoo! mailing lists.

Thanks.

[chrisjj]

I just spotted a 3 second difference in the times in the last header field you see - FWIW.

[CyberSmurf]

Originally Posted by chrisjj

http://www.emaildiscussions.com/showthread.php?t=80716t
[...]

I don't see any deleted or unapproved posts in the thread. Multiple posts wouldn't seem to be the reason.

[...]
It was this year, but Search

header:"X-ME-VSCategory: phishing" after:2024-01-01

fails to find it.

I don't have a FastMail account, so I can't comment on your search.