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Old 17 Nov 2005, 06:50 PM   #16
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Today - 1.5 months after I asked for an invitation - I received an email that states that from now on, I can use Live Mail Beta. Tried it for a couple of hours, and it's great!

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Old 19 Nov 2005, 03:17 AM   #17
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just so you know we should be able to create @live.com email address in the future
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Old 19 Nov 2005, 05:23 AM   #18
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Today - 1.5 months after I asked for an invitation - I received an email that states that from now on, I can use Live Mail Beta. Tried it for a couple of hours, and it's great!

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screenshots?
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Old 19 Nov 2005, 10:18 AM   #19
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I think screenshots are not allowed because of the beta test agreement. Finally, I have received my invitation ... and I have been unable to activate it because I am under 18 years (Not, sadly not), I have children protection activated (if so, why I receive so many viagra spam messages) or it is not available for my country.

Therefore, I have decided to live in the US and, after that, configure my account in spanish.

It seems a good service, but not as good I hope. First, it does not work with a browser different than IE. Second, HTML composition is really bad: no tables, no images, no ... (well, images and tables are possible if you cut/copy and paste them into the editor).

But, most importantly is that it have needed more than 4 hours to send a message from Hotmail to my Yahoo! Spain email account (when sent using Netaddress, it is received almost immediately).
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Old 19 Nov 2005, 11:33 AM   #20
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Not screenshots, but ...

I have found this page with information about all features of new Windows Live Mail Beta. As surely expected, some captures are included.

http://join.msn.com/mailbeta/features
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Old 21 Nov 2005, 04:49 PM   #21
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have found this page with information about all features of new Windows Live Mail Beta. As surely expected, some captures are included.
Hmmm...clicking the link you provided resulted in this: "Sorry, the page you're trying to reach is temporarily unavailable or the page may no longer exist"

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Old 7 Dec 2005, 05:21 AM   #22
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Got the live mail beta... ok, I'm about to be blown away, I thought. Not so.... Like Live.com, I'm still not into the "pretty" stuff with the same old features. I liken it to putting a 'Vette body over a Pinto. Nice body, engine still sucks.

-Need IMAP on the paid offering.

-Shared online calendar does not have a monthly view.

-Sometimes when I click on a link (mail, etc) my browser will lose the top row navigation (have to start over).

-Can't see how much space I have.

In addition, I hate that Google started 100-year beta offering... and the now often copied "referral signup." Then again, what is the difference in tagging beta on it, or releasing it as-is.

In all, Iím not too impressed with the new Live Email from hotmail (and Iím a big Microsoft fanÖ ya, I said it).
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Old 7 Dec 2005, 07:37 AM   #23
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-Can't see how much space I have.
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Actually, Windows Live Mail Beta is offering 2 GB of storage quota. And, as you can see at the "feedback page" (http://join.msn.com/mailbeta/feedback), the indicator of storage used is in development.
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Old 7 Dec 2005, 09:40 AM   #24
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Actually, Windows Live Mail Beta is offering 2 GB of storage quota. And, as you can see at the "feedback page" (http://join.msn.com/mailbeta/feedback), the indicator of storage used is in development.
Thanks, J... I missed that link

I also had my question answered about having a product in beta. However, I've not verified if this is true....

"the bigger picture with beta means not having to explain to one's shareholders how a product or service will impact earnings as they would with a formally released product."
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Old 9 Dec 2005, 08:35 AM   #25
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The new beta (a none windows users perspective)

I received a beta invitation a couple of days ago (I applied a long time ago)

Just wanted to say that this new beta service is (almost) unusable, unless you are using a late IE web browser.

I have tested with IE 5.2 for Mac (OS X) and the latest Mozillla web browser versions, on both Linux and OS X.

You can see folders (and read messages) and you can delete messages from your inbox. You can create messages - but not much else. You cannot even move messages between folders.

Most features are not supported, even features that one would consider basic, that would work in any Alpha version.

I have the option to change back (to regular hotmail) but, as I very rarely receive (or send) mail from this account, I will wait and see what happens. Hotmail indicate that other web browsers will be supported soon.

It can't get any worse
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Old 9 Dec 2005, 10:11 AM   #26
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Re: The new beta (a none windows users perspective)

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[BIt can't get any worse [/b]
Yes, it can get worse: if, once you have get to type and send your message, this message never arrives to the addressee And, in my tests, this is something that happens very frequently with this new system (sending and receiving).

And you cannot guess how ridiculous is seeing what have printed when I have tested it with a heavily formatted email message (heavily formatted, but correctly displayed in the screen and no special problem for Yahoo!, Gmail, PumaPost and other SquirrelMail services, Inbox.com, FastMail.fm and so on. The message have been compressed vertically in the first 8 cms. at the left of the page!!!!
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Old 9 Dec 2005, 11:12 PM   #27
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Do they implement the features gradually? The only difference in mine is that my inbox is now 2000 MB. Other than that, I can't see any changes.
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Old 10 Dec 2005, 04:55 AM   #28
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I have the same thing, kchess, and I think after I clicked on the link in the sign up email, it said I'd be able to use the new email interface within 2 weeks. However, my storage immediately went up to 2 gb.
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Old 10 Dec 2005, 01:50 PM   #29
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to apply for an invite go to: ...
I didn't pay close attention to things email-ish until relatively recently...has this stupid "invitation" thing always been the usual way to roll out products?
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Old 12 Dec 2005, 03:32 AM   #30
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Do they implement the features gradually? The only difference in mine is that my inbox is now 2000 MB. Other than that, I can't see any changes.

omg - the new beta interface is awful!!!
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